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In my own estimation, if anyone ever wants to engage with instant messaging[0], and wants it to be in an actually secure manner, the best option would be Briar[1]. It's anonymous (uses tor), P2P (meaning no data is accessible to third parties--unlike Matrix, which is federated), encrypted, and quite censorship resistant.

[0] I don't think it's an efficient, non-distracting or just desirable means of communication.

[1] https://briar.app.




Briar rocks. That said, Matrix can run p2p too (but alpha): https://matrix.org/blog/2020/06/02/introducing-p-2-p-matrix


> meaning no data is accessible to third parties--unlike Matrix, which is federated

I acknowledge that this isn't an option for everyone but for the HN crowd, it's fairly easy to run your own homeserver. You just need to install Synapse [0] (which has a convenient Docker image [1]) and give your server a domain name.

If you do this, your metadata will only be accessible to yourself and the homeservers of your contacts (who could share your server or run their own).

Message contents are usually e2e encrypted, so the homeserver you use is irrelevant.

[0]: https://github.com/matrix-org/synapse

[1]: https://hub.docker.com/r/matrixdotorg/synapse/


It's not about running the homeserver but not leaving metadata behind. At least this is how I understood it.


Android only, no offline message delivery (AFAIR), no voice messages, no media, etc. But yeah, theoretically it looks cool.


>Android only

And Linux, as well--including the Librem 5 phone[0].

>no media

The media attachments feature was in alpha nine months ago[1]. I guess they are still working on it.

[0]: https://nico.dorfbrunnen.eu/posts/2020/briar-alpha/.

[1]: https://code.briarproject.org/briar/briar/-/issues/1669.


> And Linux, as well--including the Librem 5 phone[0].

I think the point is more that in e.g. the US, nearly half the population has an iPhone [1], so a chat service that is only available on Android and Linux can't spread as much.

[1]: https://www.counterpointresearch.com/us-market-smartphone-sh...


>I think the point is more that in e.g. the US, nearly half the population has an iPhone [1]

Oh, no, I was absolutely aware that he was referring to the Android-iPhone pairing, as in "it's Android-only as opposed to available on both Android and iOS, as every major messaging app"; I just wanted to specify that it is not only available on Android, but also on Linux (PC and phones--I guess you can use it on the Pinephone, too, besides the Librem 5).




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