I don't agree with with Yale's position, but I also didn't see anywhere that they make your statement:
>"all Asians" have personality defects that make them disproportionately bad candidates for college
I think it is important to accurately reflect their position if we, as a society, want to have a rational discussion about the role race should play in college admission.
A more accurate characterization of the Yale claim is that asians, on average, have personalities which detract from their application.
This is a much more complicated assertion to refute, because differences between races can and do exist, as demonstrated by above average test scores among asians.
Have you met an Asian American? Would you or Yale repeat that ridiculous slur of personality ("asians, on average, have personalities which detract...") about any other racial group? How do you feel about the "Karen" phenomenon?
Test scores are problematic because tests have some measurable level of bias. The answer to that isn't to codify drastically more bias into the process.
You're trying to make something of a supposed difference between the proposition "members of set A have quality P" and the proposition "on average, set A has quality P". When P is something as subjective, ill-defined, and capricious as "personality defects", especially when said of a group of students who on all other measures qualify for admission to "elite universities", there is no difference between the two propositions. How do we even calculate an average personality? I doubt that even Yale people would stoop to such sophistry.
"All A has P" is a world of difference from "A has P", or "on average A has P".
>How do we even calculate an average personality? I doubt that even Yale people would stoop to such sophistry.
This is exactly what Yale is doing and the DOJ is going after them for. Yale requires personal statements, which they grade and rank based on personality attributes they find desirable. By Yale's metrics, asians, on average, score lower and this is used as rationale to deny acceptance. Asians who score high on the personality assessment are given acceptance. After ranking tens of thousands of students of different races, Yale or a 3rd part can look at the scores given by reviewers, and see if there is a correlation with race. This is the avereage, as reviewed by Yale.
YES, this can have bias. YES, this is highly suspect. Yes, I think this should be investigated. As said in my original post, I don't support Yale's position.
That said, I think it is important to have the moral and intellectual honesty to represent it for what it is, and debate it.
There is no need to lie and claim that Yale says "all asians are inferior". refuting this claim is a waste of everyone's time because nobody is making it.
>"all Asians" have personality defects that make them disproportionately bad candidates for college
I think it is important to accurately reflect their position if we, as a society, want to have a rational discussion about the role race should play in college admission.
A more accurate characterization of the Yale claim is that asians, on average, have personalities which detract from their application.
This is a much more complicated assertion to refute, because differences between races can and do exist, as demonstrated by above average test scores among asians.