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I worked in HAWK missiles in the Marine Corps for many years. This doesn’t surprise me one bit. In 1994, Block II launchers were still effectively using vacuum tubes. In fact, I still recall the one that faulted the most, from its label in the FM: relay K-9! Ninety-percent of launcher issues were attributed to that old relic of a tube.

Then, in 1995, Raytheon came out with Block III updates, which replaced the entire trunk filled with hardware (about as crowded as a standard engine bay of a modern car) with about 3 PC graphics cards-sized modules, each with an NSN price tag of $170,000 per (don’t worry, you’re paying for the IP, not the physical cards themselves, which iirc were MIL-spec versions of your standed PCI card from back then).

Made my job as a tech so easy, since the launchers never really broke down much after that, save for a hydraulic leak or two out in Dugway or White Sands during a shoot or Red Flag exercises at Nellis AFB. Didn’t see aliens out there but quite a lot of Soviet gear, which we acquired shortly after the USSR’s downfall. MiGs are really cool and reliable, though pilot/user comfort/convenience was not on their MVP list.



If I've understood Wikipedia correctly, what it's calling "Phase 2" of the Hawk missile program [0] is when some vacuum tubes were replaced.

There are 12 countries (including some rich ones) listed as using the Phase 1 upgrade of the missile, which is presumably still full of vacuum tubes [1]. This is the 30 year old upgrade to a missile developed 60 years ago.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIM-23_Hawk#Development [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIM-23_Hawk#Phase_I


> each with an NSN price tag of $170,000 per

This is why we don't have decent public health care. That's obscene.


not really - how many software and hardware engineers do you think you need for this? probably minimum 10, maybe 20-30 realistically. At SV salaries (you need the best engineers, right?) that's $9m USD/annum.

You need to ship at least 50 of these devices to break even. To get a proper margin and cover all the other costs (manufacturing, sales, marketing, compliance, accounting, yada), you're probably going to need to create and sell a couple hundred, every year.


One other thing is that launchers and other boxes that control weapons are DAL-A equivalent, so you have to be rigorous about your requirements and testing to ensure that a missile never accidentally fires. This drives up development costs as well, since you have to do a lot more work to verify and validate the system.


It depends what you mean by "SV salaries" but defense contractor developers can make a lot of money, especially compared to other software jobs in the NOVA/Maryland area (which are not paid nearly as well as SV).


They produced approx 40,000 between '59 and '94, so around 1,000 a year. So I would assume they broke even.


That's not the device in question.




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