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I was addressing this point:

> I think a constructive rule of argument would be to state upfront when you happen to be standing in the "obscure" or "completely artificial" camps.

Obviously it is "to me". On whose behalf do you speak?



I think you're assuming too much good faith on the part of the person making the argument. Sometimes people do find themselves legitimately standing in the 'obscure' camp (or even, say in academia, the 'completely artificial' camp). But it's often the case that a debator adopts a stance in one of those camps, without acknowledging where they're standing.

Sometimes it happens because of pedantry and sometimes because of incompetence, but it happens all too often.


All the same - "obscurity" is determined by context.

If you happen to be in the "obscure camp" (without knowing it) in which GC is a problem, not a solution - it sucks for you having listened to the OP.


>I think you're assuming too much good faith on the part of the person making the argument.

Naturally. I subscribe to the principle of charity and I practice it.

If you are just using me as a pawn in your argument, shame on you.




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