Agree completely. I've been an exec for multiple low 9 figure hosts and always imagined they were larger by a wide margin.

I wonder if they would have if they didn't have to cut prices to compete with Vultr.

First time I'm hearing of Vultr...they look like a carbon copy of DO. What does Vultr have that they don't?

Last time I checked Vultr included a DDoS service [1] an DO did not.

Caveat: I don't really know much about this service, maybe someone here can chime in?

* I don't know how reliable it is

* I don't know if a small/medium app really needs it

* I don't know if you would be better off using something like cloudflare anyway

* Etc...

What I do know is that a long time ago I used to host some stuff on a VPS (Linode I think) and I would routinely run out of bandwidth because of traffic coming most of the time from random AWS IPs, which seemed like shady bot networks or something. Ergo having a DDoS service like this seems useful even if you are hosting a small site.

1: https://www.vultr.com/products/ddos-protection/

They have POPs in parts of the world DO doesn't have. E.g. they have a Sydney POP which attracts customers from Australia and New Zealand. Location was pretty much the main reason why I chose Vultr over DO as I found everything else was more or less on par.

Vultr allow running on bare metal and they also allow access to BGP. That's both niche needs, but that's also what you expect from a smaller player, to fill niche market.

DO has more managed services like databases, k8s, etc. Otherwise they are very similar. Vultr has more locations in the US.

Commodities have little differentiation between themselves. Compute alone is a commodity.

Bring your own ip: https://www.vultr.com/features/bgp/

> What does Vultr have that they don't?

According to multiple HN users, a more unreliable (internal) network.

Ironically I moved from DO to Vultr because their network was more reliable

A lot more locations and some really great NVMe-based high-performance nodes.