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> Frankly, a much less reaching theory at this point is that we simply don't know what these things are, have completely failed to determine it, and can't safely conjecture anymore they are human created or purely natural phenomena. This is a perfectly suitable place to be given our place in the universe and our current level of understanding, and doesn't require any further leaps to explaining their origin beyond "we just don't know." In terms of action, it does mean we should try to find out more if we haven't yet fully exhausted our ability to do so. Hard to say, given the evidence, if our government has done so, but civilian industry certainly hasn't.

This is compatible with dvh's theory AIUI, which is not about explaining this particular case but about explaining why we're hearing about this stuff. If the government wants people to report UFO sightings, and they're encouraging it by amplifying instead of suppressing certain UFO reports, why would they shine the spotlight on the reports that are actually their top-secret drones? They'd pick something like this, where no one actually knows wtf it is. They don't have to fake the incident, they just pick something weird that happened and say "hey media, check this out".



I think the fact that 13 years passed between the Nimitz incident and it's public disclosure makes it highly unlikely that it was an intentional disinformation campaign.


If you're saying it wasn't staged, I'd agree that that's obviously true.


Yes, that's what I meant.


What a time to be alive.

I never thought I'd see it, but it's happened.

The tipping point has been reached where conspiracy theories denying this stuff have become crazier than the reports of it.

I think a new and very rich vein of crazy is about to make itself available to the masses for their entertainment, that is the mental gymnastics some people will tie themselves into to deny the existence of something which they find impossible to face.


I specifically haven't taken a position on what the sightings actually are. I'm speculating on why the government has changed their approach to information about UFO reports. I think they want to avoid the Streisand effect that happens around UFO coverups, and maybe also encourage reporting (because if some UFOs are actually foreign tech (aliens included I guess), they'd want to know)--they can easily do both by getting it on the news as a normal weird thing we hear about and shrug.


Are you taking about climate change or UFOs?


Re conspiracy theories - I basically admitted we (I) don’t know shit after the Snowden leaks. We joked about the NSA mass spying on us for years. It wasn’t a joke.

I have no information that leads me to believe UFO-tech is in a different category currently. It’s probably real. Just a question of when we all learn about it.




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