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I would say the ultrawealthy’s cooption of the Democratic Party, moving it away from anything like a class-based politics, has actually been one of the more effective forms of undermining and destroying the left.


+1 I almost totally agree with you. We may differ in opinion somewhat because I think that both the DNC and RNC cater to the ultra wealthy, and the democrat and republican machines compete to get votes and more support from the ultra wealthy by both doing anything the ultra wealthy want them to.

For the Democrats, I am not talking about AOC and Bernie Sanders (who will always be demonized in the media) but referring to most democratic politicians (and Republicans, of course) who bend over backwards to protect corporate interests.


AOC isn't anti-wealth, she is anti-greed, and with good reason, because greedy people are psychopaths. If you align your MO with hers, you'll be just fine, even as an ultra wealthy.

Currently, the billionaires in this country are split pretty much equally between the two sides, the same way the country is split pretty much equally. They are a good representation of the society we created here. While many on HN know that model is flawed, unsustainable, and that we need to try something new, we also know that dinosaurs have a hard them to let go. The movie, music, and video game industries are example of groups led by greedy dinosaurs who resisted changes brought by the internet.

With AOC, we should be promoting and rewarding community success, as opposed to that of an individual like we do with the current pseudo-merit travesty system that we have. I do not see how this conflict with being highly profitable. I actually think that more people would be more motivated and more profitable with a more inclusive system.


This development is actually terrifying. If socialism has no home on the left, we'll see it rise on the right, with nationalist tones.


You saw it take hold in 2016. Obama got the populist votes, and then Trump did. People wonder how the same people could vote for both, the common thread is populism.


What would you describe about Obama as “populist”?


His rhetoric and promises during campaigns




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