As a non native living in Mexico I'm not surprised by this but on the same hand I would say its actually not as bad as people think here, you see the cartels don't want tourists to stop coming as the locals wouldn't like it and it would effect the cartels bottom line, as long as you stay out their way the cartels will usually leave you alone, just as gangs in Chicago will most of the time.
Mexico is a beautiful place of warm people, brave journalists and contradictions.
> Casualties are often measured indirectly by estimated total deaths from organized crime in Mexico.[253] This amounts to about 115,000 people in the years 2007 - 2018.
I don't believe for a single second that violent assholes wouldn't give me a hard time if they felt like it. They don't live by some kind thieves' code. It's not a Dickens novel.
They're dangerous as shit and anyone who accidentally crosses paths with them might get killed for the hell of it. You ever read Borderlands Beat? That's real news coming out of Mejico. That country is bullshit and it can't keep its act together and never has. But, oh, my quaint villas and excellent tacos. Yeah, right. Drink the water and get back to me.
As far Chicago, that city is a mess, too. I was there just last year. It sucks there for all kinds of reasons.
You know what Chicago and Mexico have in common? Failed liberal policies.
> As far Chicago, that city is a mess, too. I was there just last year. It sucks there for all kinds of reasons.
How long did you spend here to reach your conclusion that Chicago sucks for all kinds of reasons? I've been here for 6 years, and I like it better here than anywhere else I've lived (Detroit, Indianapolis, West Lafayette, and New York City).
>You know what Chicago and Mexico have in common? Failed liberal policies.
Chicago has a bustling tech scene. My rent for a big, nice apartment is only 23% of my take home pay each month. It's a fine place to live. I assume you're saying that it's a dangerous hellscape because we have a lot of homicides annually, but per capita, about 10 US cities are more violent. And the violence is really still a residual effect from the redlining practice codified in the National Housing Act of 1934, which forced black people to live in bad neighborhoods regardless of their income. Redlining was legal up until 1977, which was only about 1 generation ago, which is not long enough for a significant population to save enough to move to better neighborhoods and give their children educations that enable social mobility. And redlining was a racist policy, which is hardly "liberal" (although both major parties supported racism, until the Democrats reversed course).
So I guess I don't see the basis you use to arrive at your conclusion.
> I don't believe for a single second that violent assholes wouldn't give me a hard time if they felt like it. They don't live by some kind thieves' code. It's not a Dickens novel.
I never said they wouldn't, there are crazy cartel members just as there are crazy gang members.
> They're dangerous as shit and anyone who accidentally crosses paths with them might get killed for the hell of it. You ever read Borderlands Beat? That's real news coming out of Mejico. That country is bullshit and it can't keep its act together and never has. But, oh, my quaint villas and excellent tacos. Yeah, right. Drink the water and get back to me.
Im literally living in Mexico, not in a resort but in a border town.
> As far Chicago, that city is a mess, too. I was there just last year. It sucks there for all kinds of reasons.
Agreed but there are nice places as well.
> You know what Chicago and Mexico have in common? Failed liberal policies.
I agree and corruption.
There's a ton of propaganda in mainstream media claiming that Mexico and America are both heaven and hell depending on what you watch but as an outsider (I'm neither Mexican or American) I can honestly tell you it's somewhere in between.
You know, as someone else living in Mexico, these topics always bait me. The kind of people these topics attract that weirdly brag about how radicalized they are by news always blow my mind.
But in the end it's not so bad. It keeps Mexico interesting and unadulterated by tourists.
Some of these commenters you'd think walk around with a helmet on because they might trip and they won't risk that possibility. I'd love to see someone like that look where I've lived for five years in a beach city and tell me how bad I must have it and how much I must fear for my life in this war zone.
Some people need the air conditioned sense of suburban safety that bores me to fucking tears. Other people like a little bit of ruggedness and adventure and maybe even adversity in life. Or something in between. To each their own.
It's so funny when people say this, especially with snark. I mean, you thought you had a real mic drop moment just then. As if there aren't a bunch of Americans who get Sparkletts delivered to their door just like Mexicans.
Mexico is a beautiful place of warm people, brave journalists and contradictions.