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A tough call. Your solution would disappoint a pilot who actually wanted to slow down ASAP more than Boeing's solution, and might contribute to a runway overrun.


No, it would not. If the engine is shut down moments before touching down it would mean that there would be no reverse thrust after touching down since it takes a considerable amount of time to re-start a turbo-fan (not 60 seconds as OP wrote as the engine is still spooling but still a significant amount of time and I don't think that any pilot would go through the workload and checklists of re-starting an engine during the landing roll anyway). This leads to a longer braking distance.

The sane choice would be to not engage reverse thrust at all (until the pilot has reset the reverse thrust throttle) or to only engage reverse thrust once the landing gear has weight on it.


> or to only engage reverse thrust once the landing gear has weight on it.

Having reverse thrust depend on a sensor that could fail seems like a poor choice. What if the landing gear don't drop? Is there a situation where you would still want reverse thrust without landing gear?


Sometimes you'd like to have reverse thrust in-flight if you want to descend really, really quickly. Airliners don't have that feature anymore, but the C-17 and C-5 do.

Actually, maybe some ex-Soviet airliners can still do it. DC-8s being used by cargo airlines could possibly still technically do it, but don't use the ability.


Specifically, it wasn't a design goal of reverse thrust, and it's operation mid-flight was directly responsible for over 200 innocent lives lost[0]. Thrust reversers are very much a "nice to have" feature on turbofan aircraft, with every one qualified to both land and initiate a rejected takeoff at maximum weight without using them, though not without some maintenance after.

[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lauda_Air_Flight_004


Most things in aircraft automation systems depend on sensors that could fail (those sensors could be redundant etc. but the same can be done with the sensors on landing gears). It is sane design.

> What if the landing gear don't drop?

I don't think that there is need for reverse thrust in such a scenario.

> Is there a situation where you would still want reverse thrust without landing gear?

Even if there is, there could be a manual override.


> I don't think that there is need for reverse thrust in such a scenario.

How do we slow down planes that still need to come down despite a stuck landing gear, then?

Indeed, a manual override must exist.


How would that work exactly? Surely the engines will be among the first things to be destroyed on 'landing' if the gear aren't down.


It depends on where the engines are mounted. There was a Tu-154 that landed gear-up in Greece, then took off again, dropped the landing gear, and landed normally.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mal%C3%A9v_Flight_262


There are plenty of examples of non-catastrophic belly landings. I'm no pilot or aircraft engineer, so I don't know for sure if you'd want reverse thrust in such a situation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belly_landing


Just have multiple sensors like they do already.

It's also a sensor that you can simply put on each wheel to determine if there is weight applied.


> or to only engage reverse thrust once the landing gear has weight on it.

Or if the manual override is turned on.


hundreds of people are going to die.


Only if the people in this thread are designing aircraft. Presumably the actual aircraft designers have more experience reasoning through these kinds of problems.




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