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Oh! I only read the first thing you linked at first so maybe misunderstood. It does heat up a bit after but only seems 'visceral' in the way showing a bit of ankle is 'racy'. Then again, I don't know anything about the civility baseline of the list or people involved.


I mean, if you want visceral, there is this shameful email from Dan Harkins:

https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/tls/current/msg10971.h...


I didn't really follow it very far, I did notice Dan Harkins quickly got assholier-than-thou. But there's no shortage of crypto or general tech talk that is worse.




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