Anything creative will never be seen as cool outside of the niche it lives in. You are cool if you play in a movie, not if you write it. You are cool if you wear clothes, not if you design them. You are cool if you play football, not if you compose teams.

It's because it's difficult to assess the quality of creative work. It requires to take a personnal stand.

But it's easy to engage emotionnaly in a demonstration of something basic like wearing a shirt or hitting a ball.

Hence most of the world can do the later, but surprisingly not that many can do the former.

In the HN bubble it's easy to forget the vast majority of the world is composed of simple people. And they are the major force driving the world, just by sheer number.

Lets ignore that "cool" is not really well defined for a moment.

> Anything creative will never be seen as cool outside of the niche it lives in.

In my experience the exact opposite is true. The cool kids back in my school were the ones who were into music and art. It was mainly the lifestyle surrounding the "creative, don't care" type.

Even now that is still the case in my culture. People whose main profession is writing/painting/producing music are "cool". But maybe that is different in your culture.

Congrat, you live in a niche.

> You are cool if you wear clothes, not if you design them.

I disagree with this, because if this would be true, you would have no idea who Coco Chanel was.

Coco chanel was definitly not cool because she made clothes. Read her bio. She was actually made fun of, like all geniuses.

She became cool in her niche. Then rich and famous. Then mondialy cool because rich and famous.

Being rich and famous makes everybody cool. Pew die pie is cool now. Me playing in my living room ? Nope.

Take chanel or jobs or jk rolling before they became rich and famous. How do you think people consider them ? At best originals. At worst loosers.

There's nothing cool about sitting down and designing clothes for a lot of people, while Coco clothes are perceived as cool. Similarly, a lot of people don't see anything interesting in designing cars, but they get excited by seeing a lamborghini.

Not that it actually matters, but, didn't she wear what she designed?

I really don't understand. Looks to me like I am surrounded by different people, then. I didn't caught real RPGs because for some reason it is difficult for me step in someone else shoes but I love board games as well as PC games. The richer story, the better. All my friends are either playing as well, or at least aware about such kind of entertainment and none of them said a bad word about it. Certainly not avoiding the subject. Some of them even meet weekly, old chaps playing board games in a pub. If that's not cool, I don't know what is.

I don't think there's many activities which bestow coolness merely through participation at a casual level.

But thankfully, we have ultimate frisbee to fill the gap.