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Yes, that is one of the main factors. And the ground reality is that right now a new employment based Green Card petitioner from India would need to wait 70 years.


Need to get this fixed. A bipartisan bill cosponsered by 340 house representatives is there but Paul Ryan is not allowing the vote on it. Perhaps not the limit fixed, but the backlog that's currently there for H1bs. It will be extremely beneficial for the country, for the H1bs and family, and would drive up tech wages. Literally no negatives.

Their cause is even more sympathetic than DACA. I sincerely believe if they were protesting and more politically involved, they'd easily pass it through but no noise is being made. That's a good thing personally in my opinion since I'm turned off by protests and think that it divides us, and most protesters are very aggressive and bluntly not very bright. However, protests are very effective in American History in order to make change and if I were in their position I'd say that's the best bet. Some protests seem politically manufactured and arguments easily refuted, but movements like the civil rights movements and the American Disability Act would not have been possible without protests.


> Their cause is even more sympathetic than DACA.

I wouldn't go that far. DACA recipients were brought to the country as children and literally know nothing else, often including the language of their "home" country. H1Bs might be more beneficial economically, but I'm not convinced they are more sympathetic.


> DACA recipients were brought to the country as children and literally know nothing else, often including the language of their "home" country.

Not the country's problem. If you expose children to the consequences of your wrongdoing and mistakes, they suffer as well as you. Otherwise, that incentivizes wrongdoing.

Another example - if you rob a bank, and pay for your kid's private school tuition is it "wrong" to take away the money you stole because the kid is just accustomed to attending private school?

The laws are fairly clear. Most illegal immigrants know full well they're breaking the law by entering illegally. If they get caught, everybody involved suffers the consequences.


> Not the country's problem.

The country decides what the country's problems are and are not. DACA has widespread public support - 83% of voters support a pathway to citizenship, according a to a poll by Fox News (of all places):

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/09/28/fox-news-poll-83-...

So it's safe to say the country considers it a problem, and a solvable one at that. You don't need to use wholly inaccurate analogies when people already understand the issue.


> The country decides what the country's problems are and are not.

Odd, the people who are in charge of creating laws, the House and the Senate, are still in office after getting nothing done. Right now this is not the country's problem because laws on the books should be enforced, as they were passed by the legislature.

Why not vote legislators into office who can pass the laws? It would be the legislative branch's problem, most definitely not the executive branch - I applaud Trump for upholding the law as passed.

The executive branch enforces the law, the legislative branch creates laws, and the judicial branch interprets the law.

Using executive orders to selectively enforce or not enforce laws does an end run around the will of the people and laws. If enough people cared enough, vote legislators in who will change the laws to what you want. Just saying that at this current moment a majority of people want this solved but have no concrete solutions on what the exact pathway to citizenship is short-sighted, naive, and dangerous.


> Odd, the people who are in charge of creating laws, the House and the Senate, are still in office after getting nothing done.

For one, there hasn't been an election since this latest change to DACA status happened. Secondly, very few people decide their vote on a single decision like this, and especially one that doesn't directly affect them. That doesn't mean they don't support it, though.


DACA was created by Obama as an end run around the legislative process. It was recently removed by another executive order. And Trump was not shy about expressing his opinions about immigration, and was voted in.

If people don't care enough to campaign/have their votes influenced for this issue, it means their preference isn't strong enough.

The fewer executive orders the better. Any executive order changing the laws as they are in the books should be immediately reversed, as it subverts all separation of powers in our government.


Right, because no single country can take more than 5% of the resident visa in a given year.

That's a good thing no? Diversity of immigrants? Otherwise 80%+ of all immigrants would be Indian/Chinese.

Doesn't seem unreasonable to me. Gives other countries a chance to immigrate.




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