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"It's safe as long as i think it's safe." Gotcha.



You realize "safe" is a feeling, an emotional response. I have yet to see "safe" defined in some probabilistic way and that is what you would have to do to have it not just a feeling.


> I have yet to see "safe" defined in some probabilistic way

https://www.moodys.com/sites/products/DefaultResearch/200710...

Of course, when you start defining "safe" in a probabilistic way, you end up very quickly estimating the degree of safety instead of binary safe/not safe.


Correct. I'm sure its has been done, but the general public does not think about it that way.

Nice subtle joke(?) with that link to a Moody's March 2008 report on rating bonds given that rating agencies were probably the closest single thing you could point to as the fraud that caused the mortgage bubble and 2008 collapse. Yes, sometimes a feeling can be closer to the truth than a lot of complicated math done with wrong assumptions.


> general public does not think about it that way.

I agree that general public is utterly incapable of understanding basic concepts of probability. (See: Clinto had probability 52% of winning. Trump won -> Forecast was wrong. How stupid is that?) I just commented when you told you have not seen safe even defined in a probabilistic way.

> Yes, sometimes a feeling can be closer to the truth than a lot of complicated math done with wrong assumptions.

To me that is like a stopped clock is correct twice a day compared to a working clock that is just having wrong time all the time.

At least with the complicated math you are forced to spell out the assumptions and there is a chance you are able to recognize them before it is too late.


Hey you know what, you've shown a bias of me.

I come from a construction background (big stuff) and it hadn't occurred to me that people would not get my connotative understanding of 'safety'. For me, safety is about risk minimization. If you haven't considered actual risk when you investigate doing something that could hurt you, it isn't 'safe'.

So thanks for helping me recognize that.




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