You say that as if you think that is prima facie a bad thing. It's that sort of categorization which has poisoned political discourse in this country.

I hope Trump's shock to both the major parties encourages them to reconsider the war for power they wage day and night. But I'm not going to hold my breath.

I'm not saying being a republican is a bad thing, I'm saying this statement "She's describes Trumps win as a great big middle finger to career politicians." makes even less sense coming from a republican or someone that's likely to benefit from republican policies.

The only way that statement makes sense is if the person saying it would be negatively affected and/or Trump weren't affiliated with either party.

Why would? It's a victory for one of them, and proof to the other that they aren't fighting hard enough. It might cause the latter to reconsider strategy, but why would it cause either to question the struggle itself?

You think it's a victory for the republican party? Given how many from the establishment publicly disowned Trump, or simply failed to support him as the party's nominee, it's a bit of a stretch to say the republican party won.

> You think it's a victory for the republican party?

Clearly so. It's perhaps, within the party, a defeat for sone establishment figures in terms of relative internal influence, but clearly the absolute and total lock on all organs of federal power they've secured is a major victory for the party.

And it's not like the party establishment suffered major reverses, either. Had Trump won despite the Republicans losing the Senate or facing unexpectedly large loss of seats in the House, that might be a different story.