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The nhs is great. A model for the rest of the world to follow yet the tories are fighting tooth and nail to dismantle it.


They are and we aren't fighting back tooth and nail to stop them.

We just let them do it because we (collective we) have grown so used to having it we can't remember what it was like before, people dying from treatable conditions because they couldn't afford it, average life expectancy been a whole decade lower (or more) etc.

We (again collective) won't realise what we had until it's gone.


My filthy tories voting friends do actually agree that police, nhs, fire services, etc are worth spending money on. I think the Tories have lost sight of what is important to their supporters.


Yep, they spend £600m a year on management consultants to tell them things they already know. Enough to run 8-9 large hospitals.

That's public money going to the private sector for no real benefit.


I've gotten a pavlovian response to "good things", where I start imagining it already breaking down.

Like Obamas presidency. For every good he's done or tried to do, all the shit in the world that affects the US (and even things that are not real apparently) gets pinned on him, regardless of cause.

And sure, Obamacare probably has a lot of faults, but is that because of its concept, because of congressional gridlock, or compromises?

I won't argue either way, but it's always sad when something gets dismantled or at least scolded for reasons outside of its grasp.

I don't know enough about NHS to say, but spending £600M/year on management consultants doesn't sound like a healthcare problem.

I'm not religious, but it's the same with Islam being lumped together with extremists, Christianity being lumped in with crusades and westboro baptists and other lunatics, and both republicans and liberals being categorized by a few vocal idiots.

Sometimes you have to try to look objectively at something and the faults alongside it, and try to determine if they are one and the same. Sometimes it's worth fighting to improve something instead of just burning it to the ground, because there's a good chance the new foundation being built is worse than what you destroyed.




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