PureGym's T&Cs [1] have a ridiculously long "PIN abuse policy" (probably meant to stop people sharing with mates). They can cancel memberships or even retroactively charge for gym use if you "knowingly provided your PIN to another individual."

I'm not a lawyer and don't fancy being the test case for whether entering your PIN on a third-party website/app counts as "knowingly providing" it. Given how their app works, I suspect they might just ban a bunch of accounts instead.

Though now that I think about it, the squat racks are always packed, so maybe I should just distribute the app to people who go at the same time as me.

[1] https://www.puregym.com/membership-terms-conditions/

I guess I'm assuming that you would design the iOS app to collect and store the PIN number on the device, and never ever share it, since (if I read the post correctly) that's all you'd need to get to basic auth. I take your point that that might still be considered "sharing with a third party" but honestly I suspect that (a) they wouldn't notice for a long long time and (b) they would typically start by sending a c&d, not hiring a team top-notch lawyers and going straight to court unless you're really wealthy and there's some prize to be had for all of those legal fees.

I've seen people on PureGym's Twitter successfully refreshing screenshots weekly though, and the API response suggests the same.

That being said, I couldn't find a validation endpoint to check if mine got invalidated by something specific (maybe signing out?) or if there's some other magic happening.

My gym has a similar system but I realised it's time based and the app functions without Internet. I installed the app onto an old android with no sim, logged in at home over WiFi and it successfully regenerated QRs without data

> it sounds like you get API access fairly quickly after that?

Yes, that's correct; I am yet to hit the rate-limit but from my experience with the official app/website, it's quite forgiving to failed attempts.

The scope in the post is the one used by the app and other unofficial clients on GitHub [1][2], so I doubt there are more options beyond that.

-- [1] https://github.com/0wain/puregym-api-php-wrapper/blob/main/s... [2] https://github.com/2t6h/puregym-attendance/blob/main/puregym...

> There's a mixture of em dashes joining words and double hyphens spaced between words, suggesting the former were missed in a find and replace job.

The em dash conspiracy in the comments today is amazing -- I type double hyphens everywhere, and some apps (e.g a Telegram bot I made for drafts, or the macOS' built-in auto-correct) replace them with em dashes automatically–I never bother to edit those out (ok, now this one I put here on purpose).

> It's just a ZIP archive with delusions of grandeur > Clear examples of LLM fluff that don't "add facts or colour to the story".

Yeah, no that's fair enough, should've known better than to attempt humour on HN.

I've got to say though, pkpass is a ZIP archive, and no ZIP archive should require one to spend 3 hours to sign it.

Edit: total random thought: something in your prose shouted ‘Brit’ to me very quickly. Is it possible that part of this is simply cultural differences in humour and writing, and over-interpretation of subtle differences as evidence of LLM use?

Or do LLMs just write in a subtlety more British style because, well, Shakespeare and Dickens and Keats and Milton? Or does ChatGPT just secretly channel PG Wodehouse?

> Wednesday, 11:15 AM. I'm at the PureGym entrance doing the universal gym app dance. Phone out, one bar of signal that immediately gives up because apparently the building is wrapped in aluminum foil

It says, "Hey I'm a human who goes to the gym and experiences the same frustrations as you do". Now imagine for a second this paragraph was written by AI. The AI has never been to the gym, the AI doesn't feel impatience trying to pass through the turnstile, the AI has never experienced the anxiety of a dodgy internet connection in a large commercial building. The purpose of any humour in this paragraph is completely undermined if you assume it was actually written by AI.

So please don't conflate being anti-LLM with being anti-humour. It's just the opposite. We want humour because we want to feel a connection with our fellow humans and for the same reason we should also want writing that comes from a human, not a machine.

I'm not.

I'm trying to analyse, or hypothesise, why this author's particular writing style seemed to trigger people's nascent LLM warning heuristics.

I considered the humour, because, well, other people brought it up. From the surrounding discussion, it seemed that the jocular writing style was one of the points generating suspicion.

British people do tend to have a fairly humorous indirect way of communicating that can take some getting used to for people from other cultures, but that doesn't mean we're all secretly LLMs

I swear some folks have just been normalised to the shit writing that AI does so much that they look for tricks like punctuation rather than just reading the damn text. Although maybe they're just blatting the whole thing into ChatGPT and asking it to summarise, or determine if it's AI generate.

It has become a trope to call AI writing to any text which includes an em-dash.

I knew about the Kurosawa's movie though, just didn't mention it in the snippet.

(seems like I will be spending tonight learning how to mimic bird sounds)

I write weekly on things I learnt or read, most posts are paywalled but at least one every month is public.