If it was (more) moderated it would just be sterile, boring, and less true to reality. The entire point is to label areas with the most obviously applicable stereotype, and for that it's doing a great job.
I’m not sure why there’s such a high expectation of accuracy on something called “hood maps” that doesn’t use extensive moderation? Just move on if you don’t find it interesting or amusing.
I guess I didn't see a big "this is a joke" label on the site so evaluated it as I would any service purporting to provide maps - where accuracy is a P0.
There used to be something similar to this (was it called wikimapia?) back around 2008-2010 or so (maybe it's still around?) where people could up/down vote the tags and if the downvotes prevailed the tag would go away.
are the fonts very green at 1x size (setting at the top) for anyone else? for an extreme example, the dense mesh pattern at the end of "continuous characters" is filled with light green instead of white on my display. just wondering if this is an artifact of my subpixel font antialiasing settings or if that's baked in...
I really like the idea but it seems that rule 5. is broken in basically every article that I check, usually very explicitly. For example, on the "Earth" article: "Unlike in our timeline, where Pluto was unexpectedly destroyed in 2001, this version of Earth has maintained Pluto's status..."
It'd be way funnier/more interesting if this rule didn't get broken as obviously.
Not sure if this is the same kind of "endless loop" that I've experience on the Cloudflare captcha page; while on a VPN, the only way I can get past the "I am a Human" captcha is to refresh the page and click the area where the checkbox appears as fast as I can with my mouse before it even appears. It might take two or three tries, but it hasn't failed yet.
I have no idea why this works so well, but I haven't found another way (other than getting off of my VPN) to get past this screening page.
CS2 (the topical game of the post) allows for playing exactly how you outlined to be the "ideal" way. however, this method of playing will never* come back to be the most popular way to play the game. so, i don't see the harm in this attempt at a contribution to counteract the largest problem with the most popular way of playing.
* at least until there are so few players searching for matchmaking games that it never succeeds in finding a lobby, of course. see diabotical for example ;-(
i mostly lurk HN, and don't post unless i feel like my contribution is useful in some way.
from my perspective, it's relieving to see that the number of users has remained mostly constant in recent years. of course it's selfish to think in this way, but almost no "social media" or UGC-based platform that i've used has actually become better or more useful to me as it became (much) larger.
this kind of fast growth in users (beyond some size) often leads to a shift in the culture that made preexisting users participate in the first place, leading to a loss in overall quality of the platform as a whole. if the growth is gradual enough, then new users eventually figure out how to fit into the culture or leave.
i guess i've said nothing that isn't obvious to people who have used a computer before, basically "yay no eternal september for HN yet", but i digress.
Growth assumes that older posters continue to post, which both according to TFA and my own analysis isn't true.
In my own analysis, comments in a thread have a recent-user bias and roughly 30-40% of an article's comments will come from the last 3-4 years of users. I found this to hold true for many large threads over the past 5 years, though I haven't yet exhaustively demonstrated this yet simply because I don't do HN analysis that often.
What that means practically is that the folks who post on this site are constantly changing. I also, generally, find that the most contentious threads on this site tend to have a relatively stronger recency bias among its posters.
By that regard, eternal September is ever present: the posts on this site weigh toward recent posters. I'd be curious to see if that effect can be explained by throwaways and sock puppet posters but I'm not sure of any reliable way to identify those especially as historic karma counts aren't kept for users.
While I have more robust models that work a lot better, a very simple method I've found is that the more recent the upper percentiles of posters are on a thread, the less I will like it: to me Eternal September is here. Of course my user here is ancient from 2009. The numbers just quantify that there's been a change in audience since I joined, a wholly unsurprising fact.
i did read the article but didn't come to the conclusion that "Eternal September" is here. although i don't argue that the quality of posts has gone up recently, i do believe that many of the new users of 2022/2023 have become - or will become - the high quality posters that attracted them here initially. as i said in the first post, i think this is true because there hasn't been an unprecedented spike in new users.
basically, quality(new user + time) = quality(old user), as long as the proportion of new users/old users remains small. of course it's subjective as to where you put this value though. i just think it hasn't been reached yet here.
What "Eternal September" means to anyone is different.
What I assert based on data (simply map the comments in to the join date of their authors and make a distribution) is that most large threads with a lot of discussion on this site have a recency bias: newly joined users post a disproportionate amount on the website. At any given time, any given thread will be more heavily commented on by newer users. Given that observation, Eternal September is largely personal: do you still value the content on the site given that recent posters create more of it. For me the answer, as borne our in data, is no. I find from ~ 2016 a change in the types of discussions on the site and find that the newer the poster distribution skews from that time period onward the less interesting the discussion becomes to me. That's really all. I'm glad that you still find value in the site but that makes sense: you're a newer user. Of course this may be your second or even nth account in which case I'm obviously wrong, but what I can be certain about is myself and my own preferences, and even those change over time.
> newly joined users post a disproportionate amount on the website.
What is your definition of a new user?
> For me the answer, as borne our in data, is no. I find from ~ 2016 a change in the types of discussions on the site and find that the newer the poster distribution skews from that time period onward the less interesting the discussion becomes to me.
I am curious: Can you elaborate on how such analysis is being made?
> I am curious: Can you elaborate on how such analysis is being made?
Try doing analysis on the time at which posters in a thread joined this site. I weigh their dates based on the number of times they comment in a thread. If you do that you'll see a recency bias. The mass of the distribution is clumped more heavily in the last 3 years since the article's submission. If you think about it, that makes a lot of sense. People are probably much more energized to comment when they first join and eventually get bored and stop. You point out a really similar effect out in your own analysis about posters that stop posting after a year.
this is my first account, and i understand your perspective. i did sometimes come to HN from 2015 onwards, but not enough to really get a feel for the level of content and conversation that happened. 2015 is still much later than you first started using it, so i can see how your older first impressions of this site led you to the conclusion that present-day HN is a shadow of its former self.
so i think we agree on everything, except that you're comparing pre-2016 to now, vs. me comparing 2020 to now, which leads to the opposite conclusions. excuse me for being a part of the less interesting era of posters ;-)
Something that makes this all harder is that HN and other sites don't exist in a vacuum. There's an external world that shapes the opinions and ideas of people.
When I joined HN, hacking was mostly for nerds. The real important tech people worked on chips or devices and the money makers were in finance. This has changed. With it has come an interest in lurid tech coverage, like the existence of sites like "Techdirt", and something about software has led to the growth of a tabloid style news interest in it in a way that never happened for hardware (probably an artifact of the rise of tech being concomitant and convergent with the evolution of the Internet.) There's also been a lot of other changes going on in the greater world as the internet has become a larger part of our lives. I suspect those changes outside "in the real world" that eventually finding itself into here.
For me the antidote has been more focused conversations on other sites like Discord or BlueSky but this is all very personal.
I was watching The Synanon Fix on HBO, this weekend, and towards the end of the first episode, we see the original addicts, being replaced by the more lucrative "lifestylers," and I suspect that the next episodes will be downhill, from here.
The app I just wrote and released, is picking up steam, but slowly. That's deliberate. We're not doing any promotion, and it's giving us a chance to make course corrections. By the time people start piling in (and they will, but it will never be more than a rounding error to many social media apps), I think it will be in extremely good shape.
Wow, I just tried those environment variables, and it makes a remarkable difference for the smoothness and fullness for every font. I'll probably be leaving this setting on until something breaks when it gets fixed, and I inevitably spend too much time trying to figure out why it's broken after forgetting what I changed.
