Executives are personally liable for loss of life, regardless of the law it is morally contemptible to hide behind a corporation. Until people go to jail for manslaughter this will not change.
The Intermediate People's Court in Shijiazhuang sentenced a farmer, Zhang Yujun, and a senior manager, Geng Jinping, to death in 2009. five more people received life sentences and the main company behind it went bankrupt.
this was for four infant deaths.
Boeing killed 189 indonesians in 2021 and executives didnt so much as take a breather at the country club between swings, so good luck.
Capitalism just isnt set up to punish the Bourgeois.
> On orders from the authorities, the rescue effort concluded less than a day following the accident, and the damaged train cars were seen being broken apart by backhoes and buried nearby. The Railway Ministry justified the burial by claiming that the trains contained valuable "national level" technology that could be stolen. However, hours after the rescuers had been told to stop searching for survivors, a 2-year-old girl was found alive in the wreckage.
So, basically, all we know is that Chinese political system is set up to protect powerful people (such as politicians who are overseeing national rail projects). On the other hand, a local milk dealer is expendable, just as he would be in America.
The main difference is whether these powerful people are called "bourgeois" or something else.
China executes billionaires with some regularity. Li Jianping got the death penalty last year. There were like a dozen that got it in the aughts from mining corruption. Not to say they are free of corruption but America will never do this.
> Capitalism just isnt set up to punish the Bourgeois.
Please read your own link. There were coverups and censorship galore. The problem was this story eventually got so big it could no longer be swept under the rug like so many things were and still are.
The US had one of these scandals too. nobody was arrested, no one charged. Tammany Hall politician Alderman Michael Tuomey, known as "Butcher Mike", defended the distillers vigorously throughout the scandal—in fact, he was put in charge of the Board of Health investigation.
The guy basically ended all investigation and shielded all guilty parties.
In 1850, we were in the buildup to the civil war and hadn’t even ended slavery, the political and legal environment were drastically different. I’m not suggesting there aren’t lessons to learn but the comparison is ridiculous.
The problem is called regulatory capture. And it’s by our campaign finance system. And that’s a result of unhindered capital accumulation by a minority.
You don’t need a campaign finance problem to get regulatory capture. Only industry insiders have the context to regulate industries. They come from industry, they know and are known by all the players, and back to industry is where they want options to return. They see the world in terms other insiders do and they don’t want to burn any bridges. This is a recipe for industry getting what they want in most cases.
> Its not a problem of capitalism its a problem of a judicial system having no balls to put execs in prison.
Parent was talking about root cause, not cause.
In the US, corporations, through campaign contributions, lobbying, etc. have influence at all levels of governance. In the end this requires money above all.
The conclusion that the system (including the judical one) is rigged in favor of such coroporations has "something" to do with capitalism isn't too far fetched.
Or for the case at hand: your point would be that the 346 people didn't die because of Boing taking shortcuts for profit; they rather died because their resp. planes fell out of the sky? ;)
America is not founded on capitalism and our judicial system is not innately born from it. Not saying capitalism via corporate lobbying and bribes hasn’t had an effect on the notion of justice, but our foundational legal principles exist outside of our nation’s choice of economic policy.
For the judicial system’s behavior to result from capitalism would imply that our economic policy is baked into our foundational doctrine. I was just pointing out that capitalism did not beget our legal system.
What do you think capitalism is? Define it, and I think you'll see our foundational doctrine is designed to enshrine and protect the ideas of capitalism.
Much more talented and studied folks than I have explored this in depth, which you can find if you google capitalism and it's entanglement with the foundation of the USA.
this is wrong. China cracked down on milk whistleblowers and severely repressed and harassed them, they stopped anyone from discussing the problem on the internet. Parents of the children who were harmed basically were told to shut up by the government.
I guess it was due to the low effort comment, but there is a real reason - that is, instead of being better at manufacturing etc, America chose to try and stifle others who are evidently just better at it while at the same time made no effort to improve domestic manufacturing. Then can't understand why it doesn't work and other nations are ahead...
I used to have similar problems (and also hell bans at random web sites) because I had a small ISP that uses CGNAT. Somewhere in my zip code, there was probably an infected windows box or something.
You might check your IP in an IP reputation database.
I eventually switched to a larger, more soulless ISP (also CGNAT) because we can’t have nice things on the internet any more.
Iirc the original pi was a set top box chip, because it still at the time had directfb gpl code available (as every StB used) - I remember it quite distinctly as I laughed how pointless their experiment was (sort of wrong, but actually the rpi has done more for encouraging competition than anything they've produced themselves)
Also broadcom haven't made phones, while they do still have a strong tv/StB market share, but that's declining due to their incessant proprietary attitude
Can someone explain to me why netplan even exists? I don't see any utility in it, I don't change out my network connection manager on a daily basis so what use is a sub par abstraction when I can configure my manager of choice directly? For me it's just one of the many many reasons I don't touch Ubuntu, but sometimes I have to deal with it and I always end up shaking my head at the half baked crap they keep adding.
It's infuriatingly dumb as my backup high street banks (in multiple countries) have failed to implement this, I noticed when I got a new eco card, it's not even always 150 eur or 5 times, sometimes it is less of both.
I understand risk mitigation but I am not a moron and it's my responsibility if my card is used without my authorization and thus they can just pass liability onto me I don't care, it's not a credit card I can't spend more than I have on it.
Secondary to that, at least here they never update contactless limits, so it's still 500kc/20 eur, ať which point you are required to enter pin anyway, iirc back home in the UK many terminals allow up to 100 per transaction without pin
Interestingly I've not had to do any of that but I expect given the age of my account it was grandfathered in and isn't subject to the same rules that newer accounts have, I did notice they unverified my LLC though re obtaining cards but I guess that may just be different regulations they need to follow now, or requirements from partner banks as they've changed 3 or 4 times since I opened my account (very early on, one of the first).
Other than slow support I've not really had any issues though, when I do contact them they usually get it right - ie I asked them to add card transactions to web hooks as for some inexplicable reason it wasn't done, they added it within a few days and that was around a year ago.
Also they're not based in Estonia, they just have a presence to satisfy license requirements, they're still based in the UK (they also have a Belgian presence for some of their licenses too etc)
PEP is wholly incompetent in any language, I'm still flagged as a PEP because I'm the father of a 60 year old US senator, despite not having any ties to the US nor possessing a time machine.
