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... What does that mean?


The best thing wikimedia can do is make sure Wikipedia is unbiased as possible in sensitive topics - not just really on random online editors to notice things but to actually actively check for biases and omissions.


I'm not sure if moving from the biases of wikipedia editors to the biases of wikipedia staff would necessarily be a positive


It depends. Often staff are a lot more even handed than volunteer editors because you have to be a bit weird and love moderating to do it voluntarily, but it's pretty normal to do it as a job.

StackOverflow has this problem (or had, before it died) - the mods were hugely invested in closing questions for basically any reason, so normal users ended up hating it and the company couldn't make any changes to improve things because whenever they tried the mods revolted.

It's not as much of an issue with Wikipedia because most Wikipedia users aren't actually editing articles and running into any moderation issues.


Then take a really sensitive topic and check it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_genocide

Ask yourself how neutral this is, and it of course isn't neutral at all by Wikipedia standards (obviously both parties don't agree, and one party's viewpoint is not represented ... at all, which is normally a hard no on wikipedia) and then look at the discussion page, to see it become 100x worse, and to see openly racist viewpoints that I'm surprised they allow even on discussion pages.

What's especially troublesome is that one side (the one who's viewpoint is the only represented on the page) is totally opposed to even discussing the existence of the other side.


It would have been nice to know which plugin is problematic and why. My curiosity is unsatiated.


Totally, great write up, just missing a true conclusion.


I have never seen "ngmi" before, I wonder in which subculture it is common


It's the second most common four-letter acronym in crypto hype threads right after hfsp.


The Urban Dictionary definition is hilarious, opens with "HFSP is an acronym used typically in the crypto community against non-belivers".

Hasn't defined the term yet and I know I'm in for a hell of a ride.


Seen budding lot in Ivy League hacker subculture 15 years ago when I was there


very popular on tech twitter. Right up there with "we're back" and "we're so back"


not sure, by my college friend group uses it occasionally


I wonder how much language does this model understand. If we pan across text will it fill in sensible next word? How good will it be?


Is this supposed to be a reply to our comments on his previous article or are there comments elsewhere?

Edit: I'm also wondering who is writing this - there is no name (not even pseudonym) or about page.


Original article seems to be https://fromtheprism.com/cubic-kilometer-problem.html so I guess it's a response to criticism on that article on social media but unclear where.


> Why are the US's (or the west at large) war crimes always seen as "cool" and "unconventional" when it is just terrorism.

I have read the article carefully and I'm unsure why do you think this incident is terrorism?


Calling this terrorism or a war crime shows the GP has a strong bias and lacking of understanding the reality of the war, or what war even is


Traveling to another country against their laws with the express purpose of killing their citizens is terrorism, even if your government doesn't see it that way. Every lift of a finger, every breath, every thought, every moment had by an American in Vietnam was a crime. Frankly, participating voluntarily makes one truly irredeemable.


Irredeemable? Yikes. Strong disagree, not sure it’s worth debating the more nuanced aspects. There’s a whole lot more to the conflict than you are acknowledging, and it was very messy on all sides.


Yikes. Are you related to someone who invaded Vietnam? It seems like it. And I don't much see nuance in mass murder. Injecting nuance into very clear black-and-white moral situations is a common tactic of people who have done bad things. Holocaust deniers lure people into their racist views by starting with "well, it was a little more nuanced than that."

Even worse, you wanted to drive-by shut me down by saying there's "nuance" and just leaving it at that. Do you think I'm incapable of thought, or do you actually not understand the issue yourself, and that's why you refuse to take a stance either way? What specific nuances am I missing? Please, nuance the Vietnam war. Please morally justify joining the military with the purpose of invading someone else's country and killing their citizens.


Why the article talks about Iran in an article supposedly about "Mediterranean water"? It felt out of place for me


In terms of climate zones, it’s arguably connected: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediterranean_climate


Iran's climate is not really connected to the Mediterranean sea - they are 2000km from Lebanon, just because they have a silver of land that happened to fall under mediaterrian classifcation doesn't mean they are mediaterrean


My point was that while it isn’t part of the Mediterranean as a geographic region, the Mediterranean as a climate zone does extend into Iran. And the article is about that climatical and agricultural zone.


I understood your point I just don't find it convincing. For example modern olive (staple of mediaterrian for thousand of years) don't come close to Iran (according to the map on Wikipedia). If you look at map of predicted future water stress you will see it includes far more than mediaterrian climate (or mediaterrian). Thus my main point - it doesn't make sense to call it "Mediterranean Water Collapse"


I mean, if they talk about the UK and the Mediterranean, why not Iran too? Hell, let's toss in some other countries not on the Mediterranean while we're at it. Japan maybe?


I wonder why Deepseek V3 stands out as significantly less biased in some of those tests, what is special about it?


Rough guess - they worked hard to filter out American cultural influence and related social academics.


Deepseek R1 doesn't do as well as V3 so I don't think it is that simple


Isn't it at least rumored that -R1 was trained and/or fine-tuned on outputs from ChatGPT?

If so, and if -V3 was not, that would make sense to me.


How did you come by this guess?


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