Xe highly recommend the series! Xe keep going back to them for bedtime audio book listening. Chapters alternate between fact and fiction and the mix of intriguing narrative and drier but compelling academic talk help put xir otherwise overly busy mind to rest. In fact, xe bought softcover copies of two of them just last week.
The science is no longer cutting edge (some are over twenty years old) but the deeper principles hold and Discworld makes for an excellent foil to our own Roundworld, just as Sir Pratchett intended.
Indeed, the series says more about us as humans and our relationship to the universe than the universe itself and xe love that.
Vigorously seconding this as an enby in xir early 40s who's only just figuring a lot of shit out and still has so very much left to go. So much left to discovery and explore about xirselves, too.
Seconding that entire list of recommendations, as well. Xe haven't really touched the Tao Te Ching specifically but, speaking as a secular materialist post-theist, tarot and oracle decks have served xe incredibly well as introspective tools. Consider the Oblique Strategies deck if you want to sample a similar experience.
I think it’s relevant because, stereotypically, men and women tend to display them differently. I’m curious how it would present in a non binary manner - perhaps that would be the most “true” of them, breaking free of norms?
Indeed. Only cracked xir enby trans egg shortly before hitting thirty.
But xir midlife crisis had far more to do with an abusive ex, "normative" but foolish financial choices, and other mental health issues.
The gender matters were and continue to ground xe more than not: They're an undeniable, celebration-worthy facet of xir identity and a regular source of joy. Gender euphoria is a thing! If you're cisgender but have found deep affirmation in an especially gendered outfit (e.g. a tuxedo or cocktail dress) then you've had a taste of what it's like to go beyond your baseline gender contentment. Hope that helps!
It's definitely not for everyone, and to be honest I'd recommend a trying a traditional university first if that's an option.
The reason I liked it is because I have always just been better at teaching myself stuff than being taught. I like working at my own (usually faster) pace and I really hate waiting to make progress. WGU is a perfect system for someone with that mentality, particularly since it's inexpensive.
I think the quality of the education is "ok". I think you'll leave with a good enough education in computer science to be "useful", but I will acknowledge that the fast-pace does make it easier to get away with skipping the boring stuff than it would be with a traditional school.
If you already have a lot of experience with software, WGU can work as a "legitimizer" if nothing else, though. I had a bit of a complex about dropping out and not having a bachelors. That pretty much went away once I got my bachelors from WGU.
Oh! Xir entire software developer career has been built on skills xe taught xirselves from childhood (never took a CS course in college; majored in fine arts) so this sounds absolutely perfect! Probably would have crushed it there back in the day, too. Thank you!
The trick here is that we can reject OP's unnecessarily binary categorization as a premise and focus on the illogical and under-developed personal systems for testing reality and challenging beliefs that represent a far greater concern than the particulars of categorically unexamined beliefs.
Not to mention the tens of thousands of people who were killed in the witch trials (medieval and contemporary), among so very many other examples.
Few things are more personally relevant than not getting tortured and executed by your neighbors because you were granted no defense against spectral evidence.
> Few things are more personally relevant than not getting tortured and executed by your neighbors because you were granted no defense against spectral evidence.
As @arkey points out, this happens with atheistic beliefs as well. By numbers communist purges have killed vastly more people than all religions combined just due to the numbers of people involved in modern ages.
The denunciations are very similar with actual evidence rarely being required or needed. Or it’s based on some characteristic of being on an outside group. Netflix’s adaptation of the Chinese authors book “Three body problem” gives a visceral showcasing of what that would’ve been like as one of the characters father is denounced and killed during that time for having “anti-Marxist” beliefs like gravity.
I’ve been to the Pol Pot’s killing trees in Cambodia where they slaughtered millions of people. Anyone who was educated in any way were considered polluted by capitalism and killed. Things like having spectacles was sufficient evidence.
I’ve seen the holocaust monuments in Berlin and Tel Aviv where the ideals of racial purity based on pseudo scientific interpretations of evolution were a key philosophical underpinning.
Actually much of the anti-evolutionary zeal in the US can be partially traced back to progressives (of that period) use of “evolution” to justify mass forced sterilization of “undesirables” by several US states during the 1910-1930’s.
Really humans are pretty flawed with any belief system. You fool yourself if you think “scientific” or “atheist” are any hindrance to these group behaviors.
Oh honey, xe are visibly queer. None of the above is new to xe, as a matter of survival. And a matter of sanity, as xe were raised to believe that the world was created from whole cloth six thousands years ago and that dinosaurs either lived with humans or were an invention of the devil.
There are no such things as atheist beliefs any more than there are a-unicorn beliefs, even if many things have been done in its name. The same goes for evolution. And no, communism isn't any more inherently atheistic than German fascism was inherently Catholic (it certainly wasn't atheistic) nor US democracy inherently Protestant. Anyone doing anything "in the name of evolution" is projecting their own hate and small-mindedness onto whatever convenient vocabulary at hand, as has happened over and over and over long before science. Avoid confusing belief with confidence in replicability, not when only one was sufficient for humanity to reach the moon.
No, as a science-minded secular materialistic atheist, xe are burdened with expecting nuance, detail, precision, specificity, and consistency of xirselves and in xir communications. But xe also expect the same of others in kind. Tell xe again how belief will save you from junk forensic science if you are ever accused falsely of a crime? Because actual science has no patience with such nonsense whereas xir original point still stands. We can resume this discussion after that.
> There are no such things as atheist beliefs any more than there are a-unicorn beliefs, even if many things have been done in its name. The same goes for evolution.
That’s just silly. Of course there are atheistic, theistic, along with myriad of other classifications of belief systems. If you decide to try and redefine all commonly accepted terms based on your belief system you’re not participating in a fair discussion.
> And no, communism isn't any more inherently atheistic
Perhaps it’s not, but all the major communist states have embraced atheism as a matter of course and that is what pertains to my comment. Most scholars consider Karl Marx an atheist and he was certainly secularist.
> Avoid confusing belief with confidence in replicability, not when only one was sufficient for humanity to reach the moon.
Confidence in something is a form of belief. You believe something will occur or is a certain way based on prior information.
Again you’re trying to insert your idiosyncratic definition of belief into the discussion.
> No, as a science-minded secular materialistic atheist, xe are burdened with expecting nuance, detail, precision, specificity, and consistency of xirselves and in xir communications.
As I pointed out above a couple of times you are not being precise but rather are injecting your own idiosyncratic non-standard definition of things. Defining your own unique pronouns is a good exemplar of this.
This all comes across to me as you not being open to genuine conversation.
> Tell xe again how belief will save you from junk forensic science if you are ever accused falsely of a crime?
Having fair trials, hearing of evidence in a court, having impartial judges, etc is based on a societies belief that those things are important.
Junk science goes against those sort of beliefs in a country like the USA and has been used to fight against such things.
As a counter, a science minded secular materialism belief system doesn’t have to believe in things like fair trials or the need of evidence to convict. Some rationalist scientific minded have argued that belief in fair trials and equality of people is illogical as common people don’t have the intelligence or expertise to properly judge things.
The CCP for example is arguably generally more scientific-minded secular materialist society than the USA. Yet they have no problems eschewing things such as trials as in their (dare I say logical and self-consistent) belief system the needs of the state subsume those of the individual.
What about the tens of millions of people who have been killed because atheism?
But how about this: the first time that any relevant powers decided that slavery was wrong at a global level was due to Christian beliefs, fancy that. And luckily they went on to impose that moral belief to the rest of the world. (England, France vs. Slavery)
It's true that a lot of evil has been done in the name of Christianity, but that's not of Christianity. If I came to your home and punched you in the face in the name of your mother, would you blame your mother?
But Christianity and the Bible have been abused very wrongly by evil powers as tools for control, something possible through deceiving illiterate, uneducated people.
As some other comments mention, Protestant Evangelicals made a big push for literacy precisely so people could read and interpret the Bible themselves, without depending on interested third parties.
Anyone taking a little time to read the Bible will see and understand that the Crusades were wrong, racism is wrong, oppressing women is wrong, and so on.
But the micro vs. macro distinction is only one of time and scale and that's the whole point: species aren't "real," even fish aren't "real" in any ontological sense, but the countless organisms that we categorize as such existed, exist, and will continue to exist regardless of how we conceive of them.
The ask of evolution and science in general is to accept the incredibly narrow capacity of human cognition as a starting point for an even deeper understanding rather than an end goal to rationalize towards.
>But the micro vs. macro distinction is only one of time and scale and that's the whole point: species aren't "real," even fish aren't "real" in any ontological sense, but the countless organisms that we categorize as such existed, exist, and will continue to exist regardless of how we conceive of them.
This is an excellent rebuttal to the micro/macro distinction, because it's working in the correct direction, which you've stated well:
>to accept the incredibly narrow capacity of human cognition as a starting point for an even deeper understanding rather than an end goal to rationalize towards.
Using the notion of "species" as a "ground truth", as though it were some biological law, is a self-defeating point precisely because the definition of "species" is "a somewhat-arbitrary taxonomy developed by people to try to group organisms together based on observed common traits."
Want to have your mind blown? The creationist fallacy of "irreducible complexity" isn't just wrong for eyeballs and flagellum but for upward complexity as well. And lateral complexity.
Xe were raised young earth creationist and that requires gaslighting your own child on established science, going so far as to regularly test them on their willing to believe or lie about believing patent untruths. Oh, plus the constant repression of one's identity, the lack of exposure to a wider range of perspectives and experiences, and the panopticon of surveillance by people with near total control of your socializing, especially in the suburbs. That really fucks a child up.
That kind of homeschooling is a cult, no matter how much our wider culture has normalized the literal insanity.
From North Carolina originally. "Y'all" is singular, "all y'all" is plural, and "all y'all MF'ers" is when you are angry and it could be singular or plural depending on the connotation.
The science is no longer cutting edge (some are over twenty years old) but the deeper principles hold and Discworld makes for an excellent foil to our own Roundworld, just as Sir Pratchett intended.
Indeed, the series says more about us as humans and our relationship to the universe than the universe itself and xe love that.