The important part is to start as early as possible and absolutely not trust the school/teacher or kindergarden staff. They are badly programmed to reinforce kids in what comes easy to them and stop encouraging them after less than a handful of attempts.
If you have to restart later, no matter at which point, even up into 'the kids' 20s ( ultra late bloomers, slackers, kids disgusted by most people for reason Z, drug- or "condition X"-induced deadbeats, repressed kids with and without ADHD, failed or successful attempts by psycho-social environments ) understand three things:
1) you are not pushing, even if you are, you are demanding sth for the sake of your child AND yourself. YOU WANT THIS first and foremost. It's not a bad thing, fuck what the little fucker wants.
It's imperative for the kid to know that YOU WANT THIS no matter the obstacles. You want to see the process and result. It's a form of accountability, I guess. Kids pushing back is some dumb implicit way to check how important THEY and THE THING really are to you _or someone else_ (that counts for the ugly stuff, too). It's part of our evolutionary, hard-coded OODA loop.
2) just start at the very beginning, so that it's easy, almost effortless. The kid will be annoyed on most of the difficulty increases, it always depends on the sub-topic so don't back down. Even 20 year olds will catch up with their successful piers within some time. Neuro-genesis is awesome. Most 'grown up' stuff is child's play and a matter of baseline-human character anyway.
3) your stress level is what matters. Stay cool, be equanimous, serene, check your posture, voice, tone, the discussion won't last 5 min and will be worth it.
I would argue that at least a shitload of people don't get enough air via breathing and that's why they are in whatever state of consciousness they are in.
Shitty posture, 'toxic' (compared to, again, default) air, water, soil, food and constantly being pounded by annoying stuff on the peripheral of perception disrupts our CNS.
I believe we skipped a few important beats in our cognitive evolution because of that and a lot of people would be a lot smoother ... at least less pretentiously pre-modern-evolution "animalistic", or less obedient to and uncritical about liquidity-and-status-based hierarchies, and other stuff that obviously has a net-negative impact on pretty much everything ... ( lots of which has already been quantified ... multiple times over multiple decades )
.. but peeps just laugh and call this world a gangsters paradise or something ...
because you're a company that knows what that means ... and knows what that means if you are an even bigger company ... did you hear Zuck speak in that super-official room full of super-official people?
> and the average songwriter isn't making data-driven decisions on how to settle on the chord structure for their song
aren't decisions like that implicit to the source of learning/inspiration? it's not data-driven on the surface of the writers awareness, and maybe not data-driven in the statistical sense, but "intuitively", "that which sounds good successively", is based on what one heard so far within the context of the song ... so it's one hundred percent data-driven, just not data that one has consciously quantified.
IMO:
average songwriters and musicians and producers are the top exactly because they hit exactly that big fat belly of the bell curve/ G distribution ... I'd say you have it backwards... there's much more experimentation and less data-stuff going on left and right of the average
at some point my take became:
if nothing orders the stuff that lies and flies around, any emergent structures that follow the laws of nature eventually break down.
organisms started putting things in places to increase "survivability" and thriving of themselves until the offspring was ready for the job at which point the offspring started to additionaly put things in place for the sake of the "survivability" and thriving of their ancestors ( mostly overlooking their nagging and shortcomings because "love" and because over time, the lessons learned made everything better for all generations ) ...
so entropy is only relevant if all the organisms that can put some things in some place for some reason disappear and the laws of nature run until new organisms emerge. ( which is why I'm always disappointed at leadership and all the fraudulent shit going on ... more pointlessly dead organisms means less heads that can come up with ways to put things together in fun and useful ways ... it's 2025, to whomever it applies: stop clinging to your sabotage-based wannabe supremacy, please, stop corrupting the law, for fucks sake, you rich fucking losers )
it's mostly technical and design jargon ... which is what all the cool kids speak anyway ... and no-code is far from reaching it's limits and there will always be people who fucking hate communicating with computers, even if the tool's performance is 90% satisfying enough. and there will always be people who enjoy tinkering themselves ... with their own hands, hotkeys, a mouse and or a stylus ...
so we are completely ignoring the science, now, ey?
someone always has more data. 50 years for you might be a lot but someone else will tell you they are gone faster than you think.
a) doomers are just buffs, superficial or nerdy.
b) never forget that due to how the web and social hierarchies are build, some people have an ugly information flow, are constantly lied to, and bots flood their feeds with the worst shit just because they had a bit of moment, once.
some people are stilled told EV's are shit, buy a diesel. they are told so by some sort of "authority". or: "don't get a credit for "solar" if you don't have half the money right away" ( even though you'd start to save/make money after 10 years but you don't know math and that person is some sort of "authority" )
the world is full of mostly sub-average competence in positions or with the status of some sort of "authority" and these sub-average competent people, some of them saved and domesticated dogs, absolutely need others to have it worse then them so they will feed them lies whenever those people need advice. and these dogs usually work in collectives.
truthy information flow is imperative but even the German state media slaps incomplete or outright misinformation into their audience brains' all the freaking time. it's ugly, especially if you read and watch news from a bunch of international and national sources, which is why the educated youth stopped caring long ago and gladly joins Ponzi narratives ... written and played by people who rely on misinformation, polarization and some sort of ... "show" ... it's boring until the future arrives and there's nothing but obedience and or confusion and or drugs to cope with either or both.
critical thinking is a dying idea, a skill soon extinct. defense mechanisms against it are hard-wired into languages and schools of thought ... the whole "just doin' my job" thing got outta hand because a bunch of other people were sabotaged just doing their jobs ... but someone makes you feel cool, or luxury does ... and that's that.
thanks for that. never read about it in-depth and so never knew where the trial results for healthier teeth came from.
some friends stopped using paste with fluoride just when they stopped smoking and reduced coffee intake) and they don't have more tooth rot than before ... it's been 3+ years ...
i can imagine fluoride having a heavier impact on measurable concentration and attention in people with auto-immune diseases like thyroid syndromes and of course hyper-sensitive people with and without ADHD and such ...
if I wanted to be conspiratorial about it, it's no more than some peoples' attempt to worsen some of the conditions some people ARE BORN WITH, both, for the sake of the economy and some interest groups need to whatever ...
and there are so many pointless additives ... of course, it's easy to put it on personal responsibility but when the information reaches you only in your mid to late twenties, the damage is already done, and billions in economic and human value are LOST ...
broken pieces of legacy systems and perspectives, I guess ...
but then again, 'member the times when mass surveillance was a myth and the last genocide was at least a few decades in the past? or when nobody tried to eradicate some culture and their language out of the country they had been born in for centuries?
Agreed, my bad. I somehow forget that neither the official definition nor my own POV on the concept entail a number of 'casualties'/'victims'/'successfully eliminated targets' ...
If you have to restart later, no matter at which point, even up into 'the kids' 20s ( ultra late bloomers, slackers, kids disgusted by most people for reason Z, drug- or "condition X"-induced deadbeats, repressed kids with and without ADHD, failed or successful attempts by psycho-social environments ) understand three things:
1) you are not pushing, even if you are, you are demanding sth for the sake of your child AND yourself. YOU WANT THIS first and foremost. It's not a bad thing, fuck what the little fucker wants.
It's imperative for the kid to know that YOU WANT THIS no matter the obstacles. You want to see the process and result. It's a form of accountability, I guess. Kids pushing back is some dumb implicit way to check how important THEY and THE THING really are to you _or someone else_ (that counts for the ugly stuff, too). It's part of our evolutionary, hard-coded OODA loop.
2) just start at the very beginning, so that it's easy, almost effortless. The kid will be annoyed on most of the difficulty increases, it always depends on the sub-topic so don't back down. Even 20 year olds will catch up with their successful piers within some time. Neuro-genesis is awesome. Most 'grown up' stuff is child's play and a matter of baseline-human character anyway.
3) your stress level is what matters. Stay cool, be equanimous, serene, check your posture, voice, tone, the discussion won't last 5 min and will be worth it.
Absolutely force your kids to do math.
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