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My goal with this simple model is to start a conversation about how engineers are evolving their use of LLMs.


Someday he will realize this situation was staged, but he will forever appreciate the sense of exploration and adventure that you instilled in him.


This sort of thing seems also useful to teach to the youngster, upon the time he understands/learns that he was tricked, that even folks may lie to him (deliberately or not).

In a society truth is less important than relationships, communication, shared "knowledge" (myths).

It may be one of the reason why the Santa Claus character (among other ones) stays "alive" in the culture.


I’ve been rewatching a lot of older movies lately given the Rona sitch...one of the scenes came to mind when reading your comment. You can’t fool me!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_Sy6oiJbEk

Ps. Watching this scene feels like almost all the employee stock option situations I OH in the Bay Area. Thankfully Carta is there to show you how little you get as an employee if and only if you go public.


>In a society truth is less important than relationships

Then he should have create a relationship of honesty. it's good to know that somebody wont lie to you, even to make you happy.


It’s not lying, it’s called make believe [1]. Children play this way all the time. It’s a healthy part of development. Adults play along with Santa Claus, the Easter bunny, and the tooth fairy. When kids get older and figure it out, they generally have fond memories of it. The only cases I’ve heard of where it was upsetting was when somebody else spoiled it for them, just like how people spoiled the end of the 6th Harry Potter book.

Adults do it all the time as well, when we consume fiction. It feels good to escape our current reality and inhabit another, magical reality, if only for a while. It’s a healthy thing to do as long as it doesn’t lead to a breakdown in our relationships and other aspects of our lives.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Make_believe


Interesting and useful information, thank you!

I'm really more and more convinced that each and every human group has such foundations ("myths"), and that the larger the group, the larger the distortion between the myth and reality.


You have to read some of the work of Douglas Holt, cultural branding.

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Douglas_Holt3/publicati...


"If the child believes that the make believe situation is reality, then he/she is misinterpreting the situation rather than pretending."

Are you sure Wikipedia supports your assertion?


Did this happen to you?


I think so (not sure about this).

There is an hypothesis about the origin of the "hacker" state of mind (as a strong urge to understand how things work) stating that many of them think/thought that, as youngsters, they were lied to (cannot find the reference, though).


Available informative resources played a huge part in mine. (One of the reasons I despair about the modern internet filling kids' time with cotton candy trivia)

With a pathologist father, 3rd grade biology questions digressed into two hour linked list lectures on biochemistry.

I distinctly remember the joy inspired by finding out about the-thing-behind-the-thing though!


:-/


^ When your 11 year old son finds "that website dad is always on" and this is the first comment thread he reads...


This isn't the website dad is always on. Son will find that one when he hits puberty.


When I was a kid we went hiking in the mountains with my dad and my uncle every fall catching small trouts (50-150g I guess) in the creeks using wooden poles and worms on hooks.

I was a grown up before it dawned to me that if it wasn't for us they could have gone somewhere else and caught real fish.

They never said anything but today I do the same: sometimes we go hiking on Sundays before or after church, "expeditions into the wilderness", tenting in the garden.


That or he will feel tricked and betrayed and wonder what other things in his reality were crafted for him by his parents.

I think it would be a really amazing experience, but I would be bummed out to find that my favorite childhood memory wasn’t real.


> "That or he will feel tricked and betrayed and wonder what other things in his reality were crafted for him by his parents."

Don't agree at all. Do you feel betrayed that Santa is not real or there is no such thing as a tooth fairy?


A little, yeah. I wrestled with this as a parent as my kids got older and older. At some point my seven year old asked me is Santa was real and why we would tell her he’s real. Explained the fun and magic of Christmas, etc and I don’t think it was traumatic or anything, but definitely made me feel a little down.


I did when I caught my parents being the tooth fairy which I quickly extrapolated into realizing my parents were similarly lying about santa clause.

I really don't understand the urge to lie to your children because your parents lied to you.


Parents "lie" to their kids about things like Santa because they remember the magical world that was created for them from their own childhoods, before the reality of a world with no Santa, murder, disease, death etc intruded on their reality.

Which is better, telling your child:

"yeah you will lose all your baby teeth and each one will hurt and bleed and make you look silly with big gaps in your mouth"

or

"oooh you lost a tooth, now let's put it under your pillow and the tooth fairy will exchange it for a little gift while you sleep"


I don't understand why you put "lie" in quotes. Even if you believe it is done for a good reason, it is most certainly lieing.

You have a wide variety of choices as to what to tell your child that doesn't include lieing. You can celebrate the loss of a tooth as a positive step of growing up without telling a lie about a creepy fairy that sneeks into houses and collects teeth.

Adults may rationalize to themselves that they lie to children to protect the children, but I think it is often more motivated by the adults' desire to avoid having an uncomfortable and difficult conversation.


Santa? Tooth Fairy? Easter Bunny? Disney Land?

Memories are real, experiences are as real as one wants them to be.

We all learn critical thinking and separating fact from fiction eventually, but that doesn’t mean you can’t look back fondly on experiences you enjoyed as a kid.


Or... They could appreciate the amount of effort that their parent made into making the world magical for them, they might reflect on that when they have children and do the same, and they'll be grateful for a wonderful upbringing.


Man, you are going to be pissed when you hear about Santa Claus :D


I love the Pixel line of phones. I have had the 1, 3, and 4.


Isn't DuckDuckGo just a white label of Bing?


No:

> DuckDuckGo gets its results from over four hundred sources. These include hundreds of vertical sources delivering niche Instant Answers, DuckDuckBot (our crawler) and crowd-sourced sites (like Wikipedia, stored in our answer indexes). We also of course have more traditional links in the search results, which we also source from a variety of partners, including Oath (formerly Yahoo) and Bing.

https://duck.co/help/results/sources


No? Your quote basically confirms it. All organic search results are from Oath and Bing. The other 400 sources are just for fluff like widgets.


It's worse.

AFAIK Oath / Yahoo has switched to using Bing under the hood since 2009: https://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/30/technology/companies/30so...


Huh, the last time I tried DDG back in 2014 or so, all the search results came from Yandex, which really put me off of it.


Having said that, Bing is no replacement for DDG.


How does that work with their privacy stance? Do Yahoo/Bing get to keep and use that search data and it's just anonymized, or does DDG pay to keep it untracked?

Kind of disheartening regardless. I assumed they had their own scrappy, independent tech stack.


Creating your own search engine in today's world is pretty much impossible.

For one thing, loads of sites load all their content via Ajax, so at a minimum you're gonna need a browser engine as the base of your crawler...


Headless Chrome is available and widely-used, and commonly you can get around the JS thing by simply waiting a few seconds before scraping. I'd assume the crawling itself isn't the hard part (aside from maybe just the raw compute time it takes).


For the most part yes. They could be getting search results from other paid search engine APIs but you have to balance cost of providing results with ad/affiliate revenue.


What are the other "paid search engines"?


You can get paid API search results from Google and Yandex for example just like with Bing (similar prices, different limits). And you can even use Wolfram Alpha API for certain types of queries ("what is apple's average revenue per employee?").

Doing all these would allow you to surface better results than using just one. But it comes at a cost.


Google and Bing are the only ones that matter and you can’t compete with Google by paying them for their search results.

Yandex is Russian and has pretty poor results. And you’d be naive to think that those of us concerned about privacy would ever touch something built on top of it.

In other words there aren’t paid search engines that DuckDuckGo could turn to. Unless they build their own crawler, the only game in town is Bing.


There is no difference in terms of building something on top of Bing or Yandex as your private data never touches their servers. All they get is anonymized stream of queries, in this case from DuckDuckGo.

And yes you can compete with Google (for a certain target group) by paying them for their search results. Results are just a distribution channel, it is what you do with them that matters. For example Google and DuckDuckGo both choose to show you ads and affiliate links but that is hardly the only option.


How do you know that your personal data never touches those third party servers?

Sorry, but I don't trust DuckDuckGo that much and when technology fails, I'd rather use a search engine based in a country that has rule of law ;-)


I bet bing hands over results almost for free.

They're desperate to collect user click data because they know that's the only way they'll have any chance of success. Even anonymized, that's very valuable data.


Even if they are, with DDG in between you and Bing you only have to trust DDG from a privacy point of view (and that's their whole selling point).


This is the same guy who recently vowed to provide any/all of MSFT's AI technologies to the Department of Defense https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2018/10/26/us/p...


Google's


The FBI shut down the entire site, which is made up of several buildings. There was a small post office in one of those buildings.


The Google Keep Chrome extension is a handy way to save articles that I want to read later.


G Suite isn't a help desk and ticketing system.


OP is commending slack for their customer support for when you report an issue with slack itself. Nothing to do with what the products are.


Except the article says they haven't sold very many times.


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