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This could get AI scrapers hit with a DMCA circumvention lawsuit, which is $2,500 / scrape + attorney fees of both sides if they lose.


The case is LTL LED LLC v. Google LLC (D. Minn.); see pp. 104 of this PDF onwards for the amended complaint. The lawsuit was filed in March in Minnesota trial court, but was just removed to federal court. The plaintiffs are the business and four of its officers, all of whom were also mentioned by name in some Google AI Overviews (assuming the exhibits attached to the Complaint are correct).

The Complaint claims that none of the sites linked to by the report actually reported that Wolf River had ever faced a Minnesota AG lawsuit, or was guilty of the other misconduct. According to the Complaint,

Google cited numerous sources in support of its false assertions; however, none of the referenced materials in fact contained the information Google claimed they did.

The Complaint also alleges specific lost business:


True, but PBC's are still for profit corporations and cannot benefit from tax and other benefits afforded to not for profits.


RTA, Microsoft announced changes to the security model to prevent that.


I did read the article. The person I'm replying to claims the entire debate was "uninformed hysteria", which means they thought the previous security model already required admin.


Not sure what AIPAC has to do with this. The tiktok bill was brought up as a separate measure, just voted on the same day.


Tiktok has videos of the effects of the war in Gaza. Young people watch these videos. Hence young people don't support Israel.


Of all people I know who don't support the Israeli government (including myself), none of them use Tiktok. It really seems a stretch.


Do Twitter or YouTube have no videos of the war in Gaza, or are such videos a uniquely TikTok thing?


TikTok does not actually have many such videos since they get taken down far more aggressively than they do on, say, X/Twitter or Telegram. However, TikTok has the eyeballs of the vast majority of the young people and they talk about the ongoing atrocities nonstop, and it's crushed the image of both Israel and USA over the past 6 months. From that angle, it's a huge national interest issue for both the countries' ruling establishment to get the censorship level (and censorship priorities) of such topics on TikTok under better control.


How is that different than owned by Oracle?


Yep, exactly. Apologies, my previous comment was semi-sarcastic but in retrospect that was way too vague :)

On average, HN leans anti-MySQL, with concerns about Oracle ownership frequently cited in these discussions (mixed in with some historic distrust of MySQL problems that were solved long ago). But I rarely see the same sentiment being expressed about Citus, despite some obvious similarities to their ownership situation.

Personally I don't necessarily think the ownership is a huge problem/risk in either case, but I can understand why others feel differently.


It was sensing her keto acidosis caused by low blood sugar. It has a distinct fruity smell which any dog can be trained to recognize.


Banks now have to order transactions / clearing in the way most beneficial to the consumer. One of the big items that passed under the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.


It is the science.

Am Acad. of Sleep Medicine Consensus guidelines with 26+ references: https://jcsm.aasm.org/doi/10.5664/jcsm.6558


With encrypted DNS queries becoming more popular, it is impossible to block something at the router level without decrypting the packets which bring up more privacy concerns.


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