Absolutely! And the list.pop version is multiple orders of magnitude slower. But I took the prompt to be asking for in-place modification of the existing list. Comprehension does not do that.
the zig build system is the only thing that actually matters in these notes. nobody maintains a parallel build system for fun—it's a clear signal they're finally pathfinding a way to migrate the core away from legacy c. zig's native interop is basically the only way to do this incrementally without the massive friction of a full rust rewrite. definitely makes nvim feel like a much more serious environment for systems-level performance work.
It doesn't necessarily mean they're going to migrate from C, building a C project is just so much nicer with Zig than fiddling around with CMake. You got people using it as a build system even for Go projects, especially if they're relying on CGo.
However, if you were entertaining the idea of slowly switching to Zig, the build system would be the place to start. Moving away from CMake is worth it even if you don't push it further.
But yeah, the C-Zig interop story is so good it's a no brainer if you want to "modernize" your C codebase, and you can do so incrementally instead of stopping the world for a rewrite.
why "slow" just re-write it with ai. and to be clear im 0% joking and am prepared to be downvoted by people who haven't yet understood how feasible this kind of thing already is and how utterly trivial it will be in the near future
> the only way to do this incrementally without the massive friction of a full rust rewrite
Any rewrite is massive friction, I’m sure probably meant port? The only annoyance with Rust ports is if you have to support varargs. Hopefully that will come to an end soon.
Couldn't disagree more. Why move away from solid, mature build systems to something relatively fringe like zig.
Sadly, this is the general trend with neovim in general: less focus on stability, more and more focus on shiny new things. If I didn't have an nvim config that I'm used to I would have switched to plain vim ages ago.
You haven't been using the LSP API then. There have also been multiple breaking changes over the last five years, including breaking compatibility with established default vim keybindings.
A documented breaking change does not mean the application is unstable.
The Neovim developers have been extremely clear that part of the process of getting to 1.0 is finalising the API, and that there will be breaking changes en-route.
I have never experienced this many breaking changes in stable software. There's a reason nvim still hasn't hit 1.0
To be clear, it's fine to have breaking changes. Especially if you're working towards something substantial.
But nvim and its plugin ecosystem seem to be altogether too keen to change absolutely everything and adopt all bleeding edge developments. Even when a mature system would serve the purpose just as well.
We may mention them in `:help news-breaking` for visibility, but that's only because I don't care about pedantry. API breakage != UI changes (e.g. mappings).
Having spent some time with the Zig build system, I genuinely expect this development will make things less fragile than they were with the CMake build.
> The folke/lazy.nvim is the most used plugin manager at the time of this writing. And rightly so: it is very capable with lots of features. Ironically, this itself makes it not very suitable to be a part of Neovim as most of the features come with significant code and maintenance complexity. Plus the whole idea of treating lazy loading as the main goal of a plugin manager does not sit well with Neovim core team.
I'd stick to lazy.nvim for now. Lazy loading is really neat and lazy.nvim's ability to specify plugin dependencies isn't something vim.pack has either.
I'd guess if you don't care about lazy loading and OK with just loading everything all the time - vim.pack is great to have as a built-in.
That's my impression too. However, I might give `vim.pack` a go for the novelty.
That being said, there is a way to lazy-load the plugins — Evgeni has a guide for that [1]. The "Load not during startup" variant is really simple with putting `vim.pack.add()` into `vim.schedule()`. The other myriad of options (keys, cmds, event) that lazy.nvim provides would require you to set up appropriate autocommands.
It gives me vibes of writing in Go. Everything is right there — builtin — but there's some verbosity to bear with.
Template bloat, terrible compile errors, terrible debug build performance, 1 second of extra compile time per cpp file when you include ranges, and you can't step through it in a debugger.
None of these complaints detract from this being a terse, readable, and available using the standard library, which is what the question was about...
I will agree that std::ranges is quite a jumble of templates, and has a compilation time penalty. Perhaps the use of modules will help with that somewhat.
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