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>He has a 3 hour conversation with a guest where he talks at lengths about pretty much anything he wants to ask them about.

Or, for the last two years, Covid and only Covid.

And anyone who disagrees with him, including the world's leading experts are stupid.

Then he has Alex Jones on to say provocative things to boost his audience.

But yes, we will call this open research, and not being a shock jock somehow...?


>Or, for the last two years, Covid and only Covid.

like jim gaffigan, adam curry, carrot top, beeple, steven pinker, ron white, snoop dog, gilbert gottfried, chuck palahniuk... i mean, i could go on and on.

it's like people don't even look at his guests.


> Or, for the last two years, Covid and only Covid.

It's the biggest story in the world right now and if affecting everyone. You expect him to have a 3 hour conversation and not talk about covid once? And despite what your echo chambers tell you he doesn't only talk about covid.


> Or, for the last two years, Covid and only Covid.

Like every other TV show, news papers, radio program because it has been a persistent feature of our lives for almost 2 years now. How is this a criticism?

> And anyone who disagrees with him, including the world's leading experts are stupid.

I doubt he said this. I've seen clips where he has questioned orthodoxy surrounding things like mask mandates and vaccine mandates and the effectiveness therein. But I doubt he called people straight out of stupid because they disagree with him.

> Then he has Alex Jones on to say provocative things to boost his audience.

And? Are you saying he should get boring people on his show? That he shouldn't have popular people on there?

Alex Jones was made notorious because of his removal from many social media platforms.

Many people find Alex Jones entertaining. That doesn't mean they agree with his views. I find Alex Jones entertaining but I think many of his views are ridiculous.

> But yes, we will call this open research, and not being a shock jock somehow..

I didn't say it was open research. I was disputing the fact he is a shock jock. A shock jock goes out of their way to be controversial. Think Howard Stern in the 90s. Joe Rogan isn't isn't that.

The controversy around Joe Rogan is drummed up by his competition (tradition news and media) to ironically get views (the thing you were complaining about by him having Alex Jones on the show).


I have never listened to Rogan until a few days ago when this whole Spotify controversy popped up on my radar. Today I listened to an interview with a former Navy SEAL that had nothing to do with controversial issues, vaccines, etc. It was an interesting conversation about life, about learning to deal with balancing family and work (especially when your line of work involved heavy travel and military engagement in foreign lands). Didn't seem "alex jones"-like at all. Maybe best to just pick and choose which topics interest you, and ignore the controversies?


"If you disagree with someone, the only honorable thing to do would be to go on their platform of misinformation to make them more money while they present your position in the most disingenuous way possible."

Come on, you can't be on hacker news and have this poor of critical thinking skills, right?


This is a reddit tier comment and not nearly as clever. This exact idea could be conveyed in more thoughtful way than "you must be an idiot". Unfortunately my own comment is guilty of the same thing, which is to reduce some one else's comment into a more absurd and ridiculous version.


I think the direct parent of this comment is a Digg style comment. Unfortunately, alas, I did exactly what I'm presently complaining about in this very comment.


They come out of lurking for stories like this


My favorite part is how on Monday mornings when I have a meeting I can just 100% count on one of these things happening:

-One of them will have a dead battery, even though they've been in a perfectly clean case that charged it yesterday and will charge it tomorrow. -They will no longer be paired with my phone for some reason. -They will pair with my phone, but just not recognize that they should be the primary audio output and calls will just play on speaker phone.

But sure, they "just work".


Not exactly what the OP is talking about, but I do consulting and have ~5 gmail accounts.

My FAVORITE feature ever is: "huh. You just woke up on a Tuesday and need to get to work? Well, we've logged you out of all your accounts and need you to log in again."

The worst.


"We have detected unusual activity on your account --Nothing has changed in the last 7 days. Please sign in again."


So you're dismissing the defund the police movement based on the phrasing and not knowing anything about it? What would be so harmful with learning about the thing you're speaking about with authority before doing so...?


Its really weird how the "its just a flu, lol" crowd is totally okay with flu vaccines yearly but having more than 3 vaccines against a thing that has killed millions of people is JUST TOO MUCH. CAN'T HAVE THIS.


I have a fun one.

In 2015 I was laid off from a startup that unfortunately shut down.

During my search I was intro'ed by their VC to the CTO. The CTO told me they were hiring for my exact, kind of niche role. I was pretty pumped as I hadn't really lost a job before and wanted to get something new quickly.

I met the CTO at a coffee shop, he kept asking me a bunch of questions that were clearly more being asked with the intention of picking my brain about a project versus interview questions. I asked him what was up and he said they hired someone for the role the week before, but that he wanted to pick my brain so he kept our time on calendar.

I had taken BART into the city, pushed back a different interview and taken time out of my day so a CTO with a ton of funding could exploit my labor for zero compensation.

I said something along the lines of, "um, okay I need to focus on my job search, good luck." and got up to leave. He then kind of did this act as if I was being kind of a dick for not helping him.

Luckily a Director of Engineering I'd worked with at a past company was sitting two tables away and I said hi and he said he had overheard what happened and I ended up interviewing at his company.

Still, to this day, seeing all of those "Flexport is hiring!" posts has always made me wonder how much of their interview process is just wasting the time of potential employees. They seem like they have a fairly noble mission, which is why I interviewed in the first place. But man, that whole situation still feels really gross to me.


What's sad about this interaction is that, at least for me, if that person had said "Hey, we actually already hired somebody for this, but I'd still love to meet up for lunch and hear how you'd approach some of these problems" I'd do it.

I like problems, and I like solving problems. I've been lucky enough that the pay is honestly just a bonus most of the time. Having a contact at a company I think is cool is way more valuable to me than the cost of taking a train an a few hours of my time.


Totally! I don't think I've ever turned down a request to help someone. But in this case he basically admitted that he kind of lied to me so that he could get my advice, while asking for my advice. Bleh.


Yeah the lying isn't cool at all. Totally agree.


...yes?


The price of obviously stolen goods is usually significantly lower, sometimes a magnitude lower, than not stolen goods.


I absolutely cannot stand the way these TV providers continually try to rope their customers into their disputes. This happened when I had directv, it happened when I had comcast, it happens now with YoutubeTV.

I would never in a million years, as a business owner, message one of my clients and blame a vendor for bad service and want them to help solve the dispute.

I just do not get the thought process here. "Well, these people are paying us a ton of money every month and we're just swimming in profits. Lets ask those same customers to try to get us a better deal for us with Disney so that we'll be more profitable!

No.


> I would never in a million years, as a business owner, message one of my clients and blame a vendor for bad service and want them to help solve the dispute.

If you were re-selling a vendor's product and the vender raised their prices (to you) by, say, 50%: you'd be silly not to explain to your customers what happened.


>His reasoning was that they use to feel like they were on the side of the community, but in many places it is now the community is opposed to the police.

This is like your grandpa telling you kids have no respect nowadays when all he does is scream at any kid he sees and then demands respect. It works both ways. Police used to be part of the community. Then they put themselves in tanks and body armor and come into every situation guns blazing and scared of everyone in the community.

How is the community supposed to react...?


Clearly the community reacted:

- Many in the community marched to "Defund the Police".

- Others in the community started committing more crimes.

Unfortunately those two groups are part of the same community, so they'll have to learn to get along.


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