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Good for you guys. I'm happy for you.


We joke, but I bet this will help to drastically reduce ScamInc's revenue.


ScamInc might also have a platform to create perfect invoices, perfect email conversations, scanning LinkedIn to find the right people to scam, etc.


Might? They have had that for a year at least. Plus an entire office block of slave workers in Cambodia.


This might help your local mom-and-pop scammer compete with the ScamInc.


Except with the advent of LLMs, scams can run at an unprecedented rate.


Everyone that is upset about this should take note: you are not a (coding) customer at $20/mo. Their coding customers spend thousands per month (week!) on claude and it's growing faster than they can keep up with (source: I'm one of them, and I know many other like me. We're budgeting 10-20% of engineering salary spend on tokens). It sucks to no longer be able to code on the cheap anymore, but don't fool yourself into thinking you have any leverage here.


I agree about the leverage point, but it was definitely possible to be a coding customer at $20/mo before, especially with Sonnet.


My leverage is i’m canceling my plan. Openai gives me codex+chatgpt for my $20. I use my claude code sparingly, but I enjoyed it and it works great when I needed it. Access to it was a reason they got my money a few months ago and it’s been a shit show of reduction of services since.


This is doing a bigger number on me than it has any right to.

...why are they all skewed, save for the buns that are already lopsided? Those I'll note are perfectly seated. Some are more skewed than others. Like the Big Mac is only slightly skewed.

Is there a pecking order to how skewed they are? Some social hierarchy of sandwiches?


Yes. I had a spare M1 Mini so I decided to set it up. YOLOed the entire thing and connected all the integrations, though I only ever use Opus/Sonnet. I have a dedicated Discord server I use to communicate with it.

It really is eye-opening how powerful it is once you connect your life to it. The biggest improvement is actually the trivial stuff — emailing contractors, accountants, etc. I no longer need to open another app, navigate six separate steps, and organize everything on the fly just to send one message. I stay in one place, organize my thoughts about what I’m trying to do, and the execution happens automatically.

For example, open claw will find the relevant threads, lookup the relevant details via web search, present them to me, give me a draft, I can review it, edit it, and send. 2 minutes instead of 20.

As a software engineer using AI daily, I think this is the real unlock — staying in a single context and not getting lost in the long tail of trivial details that fragment your attention before you ever get to the actual work.

The mental model shift is important too. It’s not that AI does all the work and we end up with agents emailing each other. It’s that AI automates the steps required to achieve your goals, so you can focus on the substance — like actually writing the email instead of navigating to the place where you write the email.

I also have GitHub and Vercel wired up, which means I can jot down an idea for a little productivity app for me and my family and it just appears a few minutes later, deployed and ready to use. That alone has been worth the setup.


The email use case is interesting, though I feel like dictating via intermediary AI sounds more tedious to me than just using the email app on my phone.


It's not the dictating, it's the clicking and the finding and addressing and the formalities. For a transactional email it's a lot, especially if there's substance to it like needing to click a link and make a choice about some options.


I love the idea of AI agents writing emails that will only ever be read by AI agents.


Memory. I have built up so many scripts and crons and integrated little programs and memories with open claw it would be difficult to migrate to some other system.

System of record and all.


Considering you have built them all in last few weeks, it should not be that difficult and no reason other systems won't reuse same.


Exactly! The whole point of personal agents is that the data is yours and it's where you want it not in someone's cloud. What harness you use to work with this should be a matter of preference and not one of lock in.


The future will be ownership of our memories and data. AI companies will fight tooth and nail to keep that data walled in and impossible to export.


I agree. This is why I think Google has the long term advantage. They already have so much data. I can ask Gemini a question and it'll reference an email I sent a month ago.


It's an edge but I think it's going to become hard to gate data as they do. Soon our AI assistants will see and hear everything we see and hear in real-time. All of that will be ingested somewhere. Google can't prevent us from recording the things we see and hear.

Perhaps the competitive moat of the future will be time critical access to data. Google likely gets new data faster than everyone else, and they could use this time arbitrage in products like news, finance, research, etc.


If regulators force the capability of exporting to exist, what ya gonna do?

I continue to find it amusing that people really think corporates are really holding power. No - they are holding power granted to them by the government of the state.

Remind me why Zuck et al had to kiss the ring.


Very often, the regulators don't. Here in the US, half the country would refinance their mortgage for iMessage interoperability... if it were possible. Any time regulators reach for the "stop monopoly" button, Tim Cook screeches like a rhesus monkey and drops a press release about how many terrorists Apple stops.

If lobbying was illegal then you might have a point here, but alas.


Since it's already not walled-in in most cases I don't see this happening very effectively.

Using openrouter+kilocode I can simply switch between different providers' models and not miss out on anything.


How hard do you think it would be for ai to generate all those for some alternative?


AI didn't do the work, I did. Building up context is the part we actually have to put work into. I'm not saying it would be impossible, but boy would it be annoying to have to constantly reach a new assistant about your whole life.


"Here's my corpus of records from OpenClaw. Please parse it and organize into your own memories" boom done


Why are you assuming you'd have to do the work yourself?

This is a perfect use case for a new agent to query the old agent and get the details.

You could have OpenClaw summarize and export them into a format that the new one wants.

Maybe the new agents will be designed to be compatible with OpenClaw's style.

There is no reason to believe that you're locked in to something.


You can use OpenClaw to migrate these scripts off OpenClaw.


There will definitely be migration tools.

The new agents might have a feature to query your old agents for a migration.

That said, I find it really hard to believe that you've generated so much work in the past few weeks since OpenClaw launched that you could never migrate to something else. It hasn't been that long.


Unless I am mistaken, that is all plain old markdown, arguably the easiest to migrate format for such data there can possible be.

Heck, that was half the pitch behind Obsidian, even if the project someday ended, markdown would remain. And switching between Obsidian and e.g. Logseq shows the ease of doing so.


Sorry but for $5 in credits you can have an agent port over all your bullshit to the next fad. I'll have one port over all my bullshit when the time comes too.


Bring your system to my records.

The irony of systems of record is that if there is more than one, there are effectively none. Just data stuck in silos waiting for compute.


This effect isn't that important while the customer base is growing fast.


Have you heard about this thing called AI coding agent....


The full on dystopian take would be to require anyone receiving welfare or other public funds to fully disclose all of their private details.

You want Medicaid? Tell everyone about your hemorrhoids first.


Does that include those working for a company that gets tax breaks?


The fun part is absolutely everyone is using stuff made with public funds at one point or another


Might actually be a net benefit and lead to de-stigmatizing human health conditions


You go first, then. Let’s see your full medical records without redaction if you think it’s a net benefit.

I think there's value in reducing stigma around health conditions, but forcing poor people to reveal their medical conditions to the world isn't it.


I'm genuinely fine sharing my medical history, but I don't know if my lack of shame about e.g. testicular torsion, or the way that I lost my notes for a bit and unnecessarily got repeats of vaccines I'd already had, are a sign of being in possession of a boring medical history, or an indication of an uncommonly diminished shame response.

Whatever it is, I am aware that my lack of concern here is something which makes me different from normal people. I don't really get why people in general are ashamed of their medical histories, but I nevertheless absolutely do support everyone's right to keep such secrets, because there's a few specific cases where the medical history reveals something socially damaging either in the present or with a risk of it becoming so in the future, the obvious example of which is an abortion given the US seems to be facing a loss of freedom in this regard.

(Perhaps most people have something socially damaging in their medical histories, and I've just not noticed because nobody says the thing?)


The "I have nothing to hide" argument doesn't work for security, and it doesn't work for health care records either.

You might not have anything to hide now, but you might in the future. Someone you are closest to gets murdered or into a horrific violent accident right in front of you. Despite your best efforts this gives you crippling PTSD and you are committed involuntarily for a 72 hour hold. Now your future employer (legally or not) runs a quick records check and sees you have mental health concerns and really doesn't care about the context. Why roll the dice? Go with the candidate who was in a close 2nd and already a coin flip who doesn't have such a thing in their history.

Plenty of other scenarios that can happen to anyone even if they live the most perfect boring life imaginable and never do anything interesting ever. Plenty more for folks who step off the reservation of "acceptable social/corporate behavior" even a little bit.

Plus, if you want to protect folks like in your example of having an abortion on their record - you need to vehemently defend their right as a boring person yourself as that's the only way such individuals will ever be protected. It's like herd immunity but for privacy.

It's not about the people who have nothing to hide. It's about the people who do.


I don't know about 'a few specific cases'. STIs, mental health issues, pregnancies (interrupted or not, voluntarily or not), contraception methods and/or lapses, anything often misunderstood like MS or neurodegenerative diseases, huntington, substance use/abuse (voluntary or not), victim of assault (sexual or not), sterility/fertility/impotency/incontinence, any manageable medical issue someone might use to not give you a job, to rent you an apartment, although you do actually manage it well...

None of those I'd want shared anywhere, to anyone, against my will. Those (overall) are not rare.


This is not honestly engaging with GP's statement.

The benefit only accrues if the sharing is universal.

I am too private a person to agree with GP, but it does seem that most health issues that are visible to the passerby or casual acquaintence are less stigmatized than the ones that can be hidden. There might be something to the idea.

Of course you'd have to agree that de-stigmatizing is more socially important than privacy. I guess I'm privileged enough to have no stigmas, secret or otherwise, that I consider more important than my privacy. But I know others are less fortunate.


> The benefit only accrues if the sharing is universal.

The GP's statement wasn't for universal sharing. It was to force recipients of taxpayer money to share their medical records.

It's a gross demand: Force poor and old people to reveal their medical conditions to the world.


I was taking about everyone, so you are over confidently incorrect.


GP did not specify that their thought was scoped to the same people as GGP's (explicitly dystopian) scenario, so I read their comment as working on the kernel of the idea and not the horrifying class-based discriminatory version.

While I am still confident of that assessment, I'll grant you that "obvious" charitable interpretation is not as reliable as it should be. :-/


Exposing STDs and mental conditions is part of what HIPAA’s for. Putting everyone in glass houses just creates a massive panopticon.


By forcing the poorest to disclose their personal health issues?


The conversation around GPU lifecycles seems to be conflating the various shear rates within the data center. My layman understanding is that the old 3 year replacement cycle had more to do with some component, not necessarily the memory or the processor, going wrong for half of their units by 3 years, at which point GPUs were cheap enough and advancing faster enough that it was more cost effective to upgrade than to fix. However, that calculus changes completely when the GPU and the HBM are orders of magnitude more expensive than the rest of the system. I suspect that we will see repairs being done on on the various brittle bits of the system and the actual core expensive components will continue to operate much longer than 3 years.


To be clear, that is the advertised effects, not the side effects. The idea is that if you over eat you feel terrible, but also you won't want to overeat since you'll be full.


The only reason I want these things to be any smarter is because I need them to do more work over longer periods screwing up. The only reason I need them to do more work over long periods is because they are too slow to properly pair with.

If I could have it read more of my project in a single gulp and produce the 10-1000 lines of code I want in a few seconds, I wouldn't need it to go off and write the thousands of lines on its own in the background. But because even trivial changes can take minutes by the time it slurps up the right context and futzes with the linter and types, that ideal pair programmer loop is less attractive.


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