For me DS9 is the best Star Trek series. It's hard to admit since I adore TNG but overall DS9 is better. A few characters in TNG become main characters in DS9. You don't necessarily need the history but it may seem odd watching DS9 and then TNG. As some of these DS9 characters play a much smaller part in TNG.

DS9 was the better television series. But TNG was the better Star Trek.

TNG was far more thought provoking and one could ponder each episode - I'm still pondering some. Other than Sisko's decisions in the latter seasons, what years-to-ponder dilemmas were explored in DS9?

I actually felt that Sisko became a villian at some point, I wish that DS9 would have explored that.

Why not open the link and find out?

Sorry, that was an honest question. I wasn't trying to be snarky. I did open the link but I wasn't sure why the poster didn't use an original news source. I thought perhaps there was a reason. My apologies if it was a dumb question.

Ops’ title is pretty clear on the content of the post.

Why not just use an Android phone?

Google.

Agreed. Won't be falling for that trap. Personally it's very hard to trust Google consumer products existing after 2-3 years.

I'm prone to nostalgia and love projects like this. It's a very unique feeling that's hard to describe. I wonder why we feel these things for the past we've experienced.

Because it’s the closest thing to proof that people truly do live entirely different realities. Whoever you were staring at those shows at that age is simple not you now and can never be you again. It’s almost supernatural. If you follow this line of thinking, it’s possible to live entirely different existences, almost in another body (you can take that however far you want, reincarnation, life after death, being unplugged from the simulation, etc).

It’s a mystical way of asking “what exactly was the past really and how transient am I now at this exact moment?”.

I like and use HyperDX in production and like it a lot. So kudos to the team for building and merging with Clickhouse. I found a lot of monetary value switching over to HyperDX considering it's significantly more cost efficient for our needs.

Should we be starting to prepare for the original HyperDX product to be deprecated and potentially move over to ClickStack?

First off, always really excited to hear from our production users - glad to hear you're getting good value out of the platform!

HyperDX isn't being deprecated, you can probably see on the marketing page it's still really prominently featured as an integral part of the stack - so nothing changing there.

We do of course want to get users onto HyperDX v2 and the overall ClickStack pattern. This doesn't mean HyperDX is going away by any means - just that HyperDX is focused a lot more on the end-user experience, and we get to leverage the flexibility, learnings and performance of a more exposed ClickHouse-powered core which is the intent of ClickStack. On the engineering side, we're working on making sure it's a smooth path for both open source and cloud.

side note: weird I thought I replied to this one already but I've been dealing with spotty wifi today :)

Still confused where HyperDX ends and where ClickStack starts.

Is HyperDX === ClickStack?

Is ClickStack = HyperDX + something closed source?

Is ClickStack just a cloud version of HyperDX?

Is it same thing, HyperDX, rebranded as ClickStack?

This is good feedback to make things more clear :) HyperDX is part of ClickStack, so ClickStack = { HyperDX, ClickHouse, OTel }. This is the stack we recommend that will deploy in seconds and _just work_, and can scale up to PB+ and beyond as well with some additional effort (more than a few seconds unfortunately, but one day...)

HyperDX v2, the version that is now stable and shipped in ClickStack, focuses more on the querying layer. It lets users have more customization around ClickHouse (virtually any schema, any deployment).

Optionally, users can leverage other ways of getting data into ClickHouse like Vector, S3, etc. but still use HyperDX v2 on top. Previously in HyperDX v1 you _had_ to use OTel and our ingestion pipeline and our schemas. This is no longer true in v2.

Let me know if this explanation helps

What's your opinion on OTel when trying to keep things small and performant? I've got some experience working with OTel the last few years, and I'm a bit afraid of the expanding scope and complexity compared to "simpler", more targeted solutions, like for instance Vector.

I'm just asking because you mention OTel and "other ways" in your post, and you must have a good overview over the options and where the market is headed.

It's actually not clear to me that Vector is any simpler than OTel imo (VRL is way more complicated than OTTL for instance). You can also use otel collector builder (ocb) to build a slimmed binary.

My take is that OTel is overall the best investment, it's widely supported across the board by many companies and other vendors. It's also constantly being improved with interesting ideas like otel-arrow which will make it even more performant (and columnar friendly!)

We'll also continue invest in the OTel ecosystem ourselves in making it easier and easier to get started :)

That being said, I'm not saying that OTel collector is always the right choice, we want to meet users where they are. Some users have data that gets piped into S3 files and we ingest off of a S3 bucket just due to how they've collected data, some use Vector due to its flexibility with VRL, focus on logs, or specific integrations it provides out of the box. So the answer is always - it depends :) but I do like OTel and think the future is bright.

Thanks, it's good to hear opinions from those in the trenches at the frontline, as it were.

I'm also a bit confused. I'm using HyperDX cloud and sending telemetry directly from NextJS. What's the benefit of using ClickStack compared to HyperDX cloud?

ClickStack is currently just open source - so there's no cloud or a fully hosted offering yet! (Of course you can always pair ClickStack with ClickHouse Cloud to have your ClickHouse hosted for you).

But in this case there's probably no reason for you :) These improvements will come to our cloud offering of course as we work on rolling out upgrades from HyperDX v1 to v2 in cloud.

I think it's interesting that they note they have hundreds of customers but their home page says it's trusted by thousands of companies. Are all these companies on a free tier?

I would imagine it's the usual SaaS marketing embellishment, e.g. one Google employee used the software on a trial at some point === "Trusted by Google"

Anyone can rsvp.

I feel this is positive news moving in a positive direction. Do you suggest not doing anything to improve the situation? We can’t go back in time. But we can help ourselves in the future.

I think it’s more that Americans seem to be surprised by things that people in other countries have known for decades.

Meanwhile, the current administration is trying to send us back to the 19th century in civil rights, healthcare and energy policy.

https://xkcd.com/1053/ but with different numbers

One way to help yourselves in the future would be to learn the meta-lesson that actually things that work in other countries mostly work the same way in the US too.

Yes this whole thread is so depressing. Most commenters here are talking as if electric trains were an oddity. It's like listening to people questioning the benefit of running water over the old school walk to the well.

Some people take your word for it, but some people just have to touch the stove to learn that it is hot.

The US has been pressing its palm against the grill for a while now.

Oh, we all know. It’s just convenient to pretend otherwise sometimes.

I feel this improvement is negligible. I doubt you'll see any meaningful change in your lifetime.

At best you'll see an electric car renaissance. But the infra for trains and public transit? Doubtful.

It’s still a positive change an I’m all for it.