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Having grown up in TX and having gone through the required Texas propaganda (only state flag allowed to fly at same height as US flag etc) history courses in school, I can understand the fantasy of a by-gone era. A few people really take it to heart though.

Texas has a bit of a unique history compared to other states, it was it's own country at one point and they made sure that we learned it, even in US history courses. Part of what makes the idea realistic is that the state could support itself, if it had too. There are major air & sea ports/trade, energy, food, defense, medical, technology, research, etc. While it seceded from the union, it really didnt do much in the civil war - but the most telling is that it still went with being a part of other states instead of becoming a Republic again. The idea of being an independent country is more of having this mental place to escape too when things are not going their (currently republican) way. The 180 the state did from its heighten Independents/secession rhetoric during Obama to going full-on Trumpism kowtowing is dizzying.


>> Yeah, I don't think so. This feels like a survey of people who consume too much news and social media and have become increasingly disconnected from the reality on the ground.

This says it all. The talk is there, social media (or any one who will listen) seems to be a popular public journal for people to vent feelings and use it as therapy. I even have friends that txt their anxiety about the political situation and when it reaches peek anxiety, the words civil war get thrown in there. But, it's clearly just a way to release the temporary anxiety they are feeling after having spent too much time consuming click-bait media - most people are too comfortable and self-serving in their lives to engage in long term life and death violence.

People here really did not do well, mentally or physically, when they were told they could not gather at bars or restaurants for months. And they really didnt like the disruptions to the sports seasons. The majority are not the extremist (be its very definition) that would actually be willing to give up football on Sunday to cosplay civil war 2.0.

Also, the logistics are not there - not that I can see anyway. Many people would defend their home and cities, but wont be motivated to march thousands of miles into unfamiliar neighborhoods to get shot at by g'ma and a 8 y/o. I think people, even other Americans, underestimate the actual patriotism of people in this country.


If we look back to a “time traveler,” John Titor we can see that the war will be between cities and rural areas. I can see how that could become true.

Whether you believe he was an actual time traveler (or more precisely, a multi-verse traveler), is a whole different story…


The British brought over, sold, and legalized slavery in the 13 colonies (and other North American locations), long before the USA was even a thing. The USA slave problem was started by Europeans.


> The USA slave problem was started by Europeans.

You mean Dutch and British, right?

Not all Europeans are equal

- In 959, Doge Pietro Candiano IV emitted a decree stipulating that no Venetian citizen could lend money to a Greek slave trader, and no Venetian ship would be permitted to transport slaves in Greece. The ban on slave transport was later extended "Ultra Polam" or beyond the Venetian outpost of Pola

- In 1435 Pope Eugene IV condemned slavery, of other Christians, in Sicut Dudum; furthermore, he explicitly forbade the enslavement of the Guanches.

- On 22 December 1741, Pope Benedict XIV promulgated the papal bull "Immensa Pastorum Principis" against the enslavement of the indigenous peoples of the Americas and other countries

Long before the USA was a thing (and Italy for that matter)


And also the Spanish and French. When discussing 16th-18th century North America, encompassing the slave trade as being started by Europeans is not inaccurate.


Exactly, If or once the situation gets to a point that requires scheduled load shedding (eg South Africa) I would suspect a lot of things would change pretty quickly. I can not imagine any 'side' in TX putting up with having no power for 2-3 hours, 2-3 times day - forcing a greater divide between the have's (businesses/homes willing to pay for generators) & the have-nots.


> I can not imagine any 'side' in TX putting up with having no power for 2-3 hours, 2-3 times day

If it's the side that you've disenfranchised then you don't really need to worry about it.


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Are you talking about the Highland Park shooter? The guy who cross-dressed to escape and shot up a patriotic event? Not a single reference has credibly commented that he was a Trump supporter. This specific behavior is not even consistent with Trump supporters who tend to be patriotic.

Are you just making stuff up and doing exactly what you claim to be against?


>anywhere else letting a million people die of COVID to prove a political point either but here we are

Which million people does this refer to?


In many states the more accurate debate is at what point does the possibility of a not-yet guaranteed air-breathing human have more rights than the already living human it's still developing in. Or put another way, at what point do we decide that the woman's life belongs to the state?

These new laws make it clear that a pregnant female, who is already a participating member of humanity, has only one purpose. To carry out the pregnancy, even if it is high risk and likely to kill or disable her. If she fails to produce a new living member, she may now go to jail in some states because the quiet-bad-faith part is made into law; that her Life, is not nearly as important to them as possibility of the not-yet guaranteed new young human. There is nothing pro-life about that.


Don't forget that once they're born that it's also communism to help them thrive.


> belongs to the state?

Oh please. Cool it with the strawman arguments. It's boring.

They aren't owned by the state. They simply can't kill the human growing inside them. That's it, that's all it is.

We don't need to drop to analogies and hyperbole, we have the language to describe what is happening. A woman, in most instances, chooses to have a baby grow inside of them. But regardless of how it got there, at a certain point that baby deserves human rights.

That point is all that's up for debate. At what point does a baby become a human with rights to life.

One side argues birth, one side argues conception. The vast majority decided viability 22 weeks (disturbing imo but neither here nor there).

My human right to free speech stops at the point it harms someone else.

I don't see why these rights would be any bloody different.

If you want to debate this issue you need to be willing to define when a baby becomes a human, because THAT is the only thing being debated here.


Would you please stop posting unsubstantive and/or flamewar comments to HN? You've been doing it repeatedly lately. It's not what this site is for, and it destroys what it is for.

In particular, please edit out flamewar swipes like your first sentence here.

If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful. Note this one: "Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive."


The money would be better spent on getting the students and their families the mental, educational and financial support needed for everyone's well being. It may not stop shooters, cause shooters are gonna shoot - like it or not, they will just move to sporting events or similar. In Texas, Friday High School football games regularly have 5-10k+ people attending regular season games - more on rivals and playoffs. School door locks and cameras aren't going to help them there. And, if they can't get guns legally, they can get them from Mexico smugglers, gangs, etc. It's not terribly difficult

Reminds me of a time in middle school, before all this school shooter nonsense; a friends father was moving his kids to private school and when I asked why, I was told he wanted them in a safer (richer) school. I was confused and replied that our school was safe, "we have full time cops at the school" - his reply was, "exactly, the point is that there shouldn't be". It was profound for me at the time, and thinking about it - it was normal to look out the class window and see cop cars and k-9s and hear stories about drugs and weapons being found. Classrooms were packed and teachers still didn't get much support from the district.


It probably would, but we are a reactive society and mental health care is too long term.


And only weak and broken people need mental health help, and I'm neither of those things! /s


It would break the Matrix


I seem to recall that being a goal of the good guys!

Though, before we do it, let's take a moment to consider most people do not look good at all in leather trenchcoats.


Free but collecting and storing peoples biometric data on your servers (per the FAQ). How do I know it's not a clearview ai clone but with easier data gathering? What is that saying about what the real product is if something is free?


Season 2 & 3 get better - there was a major production shakeup between 1 & 2 and smaller ones for 3. Season 4 goes slows, but I think one of the biggest problems is the way the seasons are told. One large overarching story with minor character building because of it, instead of the episodic storytelling from TOS etc. It took some getting use too and I almost stopped watching the first season as well. Season 2 is good to watch if you watch Strange New Worlds, which does go back to the episodic stories making it more like Star Trek.

Also, Lower Decks is pretty funny - I put it on for background noise and ended up binge watching, something I rarely do.


>People talk about Roe v Wade as if women spontaneously get pregnant against their will and are forced to care for the baby.

They have never been forced to care for the baby, but will now be forced to birth the baby - that still doesnt mean they will care for it, even if it is in the same home.

To the other point, women get pregnant from male sperm, yet it is somehow the female who has been burdened with trying to police this - any male partner/husband can now force a pregnancy though subterfuge leaving the female with little no other option then to carry out his will. Women can have sex all day long, every day of the week with multiple people and they will never get pregnant so long as a male does not ejaculate his sperm inside of her. Yet males are not held accountable for irresponsible ejaculations - maybe they will be monetarily accountable 10+ months later

The burden of un/wanted pregnancy falls onto the female, males have a choice to provide comfort and support (emotional, monetary) if they chose, males can still choose to be absent deadbeat parents too - they are not forced to pay, they can chose not to and depending on their lawyer situation can do so and keep their money, or not do so and have to take steps to hide their money.

Also, contraceptives fail and males don't have to care because the full physical health burden falls on the female. Like this whole topic, wanting a yes or no on something like this or if males should have to support a child just doesnt do it justice, there are too many ways in which that happens - but if a female has the choice to easily get an abortion without all of the burden, then if a male does not want a child and a female does, he should be free from it - but before that can happen - the female must be able to have the choice to carry it or terminate it without burden.


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