The point of RSC is that you get the behavior you’re describing without the dev pain points you are describing, and with a high degree of flexibility in customizing what code gets run/sent over the wire where.
HN likes to dunk on React but I think the paradigm is pretty cool and I hope that other meta frameworks beyond NextJS find ways to support it in simpler to follow ways - Tanstack Start has a promising looking philosophy, excited to see where they land on.
Vercel's skew protection feature keeps old versions alive for a while and routes requests that come from an old client to that old version, with some API endpoints to forcibly kill old versions if need be, etc. I find it works reasonably well.
Your solution doesn’t work perfectly, it works perfectly in the sense that your engineers wont see errors related to this situation; but it does not work perfectly in that your users have a crappy experience. For example if you have some long form and after a user inputs a ton of stuff, you just refresh their browser for them and wipe it all out, then that is a crappy experience. Or you refresh their browser when their internet connection is bad and then prevent them from using your app until the whole thing reloads.
Maybe that doesn’t matter for your use case or you’re willing to do a lot more legwork to prevent issues like that from occurring but there will always be tradeoffs.
That's the wrong IDE to compare it to though, Cursor's AI features are 10x better than VSCode's. I tried Zed last month and while the editing was great, the AI features were too half-baked so I ended up going back to Cursor. Hopefully it gets better fast!
I’m liberal and I also find wokeness to be irritating, so it’s not just things Republicans don’t like. Like the above person says, it’s not just awareness of structural discrimination and the like, which I believe are real and ought to be addressed, but also a sort of rhetoric and militant attitude about it that honestly I find grating.
This is a useless term if we can't agree on what "woke" is to begin with. Hence, the GP comment. If we can't agree on meanings of words, we talk past each other instead of to each other.
You see your two meanings and you realize how arguing about the term without aligning isn't a discussion, right?
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>a sort of rhetoric and militant attitude about it that honestly I find grating.
I'll be "woke" here and note the discminination in when a demanding male tends to be thought of as "leadership material", whereas a demanding female in the same role is called "bossy". These kinds of internal disciminations is exactly what "woke" people try to address (and ironically enough, are dismissed as "militant" over. Because it talks about topics people want to shut down).
>This is a useless term if we can't agree on what "woke" is to begin with.
It is worth noting that it is a right-wing tactic to capture the meaning of words. "Woke" used to mean "being aware of social and political issues and injustices," but right-wing usage of the term has diluted it to the point where it can't be used for its original meaning anymore.
I think the thing to consider is that the right-wing is focusing on the things that are the most likely to produce outrage amongst a certain part of the population when they talk about being woke. They'll hyper focus on one protest gone violent rather than thousands of peaceful gatherings in town squares, for example. They've always been very successful at creating this division through their rhetoric and selective focus.
If you're aware that structural discrimination and social injustice exists, then you already are woke. The expression of it might be different for you -- more MLK than Malcolm X, say -- but that doesn't mean you're not woke. We shouldn't let them muddy things when the goal is helping all beings be awake to reality.
Ojisan age bracket can be pretty wide, but 81 sounds to me more like an ojiichan. That said, if they're running a business and are still somewhat lively they can possibly still pass as ojisan in context.
Oniisan is much younger usually; usually I don't hear ojiisan so much as ojiichan (as well as ojisan rather than ojichan), my wife is Japanese and it rubs her weird to hear the opposite honorific in these cases.
Seriously, I think the subtext is that people in the West equate Japanese = sexist (and therefore are an inferior people) and that the choice of focusing on ojisans, is a sexist decision made to degrade women.
When in reality it probably is just a light-hearted decision since old men are goofy, a lot of visible local businesses in rural Japan tend to be run by men, and the concept provoked a laugh.
I'd say the core reason is more that the person who started it was very much likely to be male and had a few existing connections to the group of men featured on the cards.
We should strive for equality where possible but to hold individuals account to it is tougher; we should enforce in our interactions/beliefs, that's personal responsibility.
But in play or for hobbies it's harder - the group of friends I play games with is all male for example (all gay, actually). But does that mean that I need to "diversity hire" a woman for the group? We'd have no problem with that at all, if a female friend asked to join when hearing about it we'd be all for it. But it's not like we're going to go out of our way to ensure that we have at least 1 woman in our play group. If that makes sense.
The article says it was made by a woman. Regardless I don’t agree we need to hold these people accountable for not making female cards, it’s their prerogative to do what they think makes sense or is appealing to them, and choosing ojisans as a theme makes sense if you have experience with Japanese culture because of the vibe associated with it. Not everything needs to be a gender equality culture battle, and I’m pretty confident nobody is feeling disenfranchised because they chose that theme.
>We should strive for equality where possible but to hold individuals account to it is tougher; we should enforce in our interactions/beliefs, that's personal responsibility.
To be clear, you think someone should be held accountable for not including women in this trend? What might that look like? Are we talking about new laws? Changing the values of society somehow so people will independently ostracize? Or just some more coordinated activist effort? What?
>But does that mean that I need to "diversity hire" a woman for the group? We'd have no problem with that at all, if a female friend asked to join when hearing about it we'd be all for it. But it's not like we're going to go out of our way to ensure that we have at least 1 woman in our play group.
Why not ask a woman to join on the basis of wanting to diversify? That seems entirely consistent with your stated values.
Japanese culture has quite a lot of sexism but so do many "western" countries some are better in some ways some are worse in some ways. And divide between "the West" and Japan isn't so huge Japan is fairly westernized in many ways. It's a rich liberal democracy with a lot of similarities to other rich liberal democracies we may label western.
> A lot of visible local businesses in rural Japan tend to be run by men
And you don't think that has anything to do with sexism in society?
And Japanese people are well aware of this, there is definitely a common youth cultural appreciation of goofy middle-aged men here beyond what I was used to growing up in the USA.
Well, evidenced by the fact that these aren't even white men, and we have no evidence that anybody in the community in question are actually offended or feeling disempowered except for righteous social justice warriors like yourself, this comes off as screeching from someone who just wants to push their agenda.
And before you call me a sexist MAGA patriarchal asshole, not only am I liberal, but I actually live in Japan and interact with the local culture here all day every day. I speak the local langauge, am married to a local, have local friends and in fact talk about and interact with ojisans on a very regular basis, because it is a cultural touchpoint that is relevant here. Do you?
I am sick and tired of annoying people like you co-opting every discussion to push a specific victim-mindset zero-sum world view, reducing everything to your race and sex struggle without actually lifting a finger to, say, do things that actually affect outcomes in society besides pissing people off—unlike the people who set up this lighthearted card game, which is demonstrably bringing a community together. Not everywhere is the USA, let alone your toxic online ragebait bubble. What you are doing is repelling people from your cause more than helping it, myself included.
Please do some soul searching and if you really feel a need to irritate people, I would appreciate you do it somewhere else. I hope that your implication that Japanese culture is inferior because it doesn't kowtow to your cultural expectations, has made you feel good today.
HN likes to dunk on React but I think the paradigm is pretty cool and I hope that other meta frameworks beyond NextJS find ways to support it in simpler to follow ways - Tanstack Start has a promising looking philosophy, excited to see where they land on.
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