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What makes TUI easier to automate?

Every command can be manipulated as text and repeated as many times as you wish. Every command is also stored in the history, can be saved to any notepad for future, shared with the community.

Every GUI automation is highly non-standard, ad hoc, finicky (usually, depends on exact pixel positions), possibly Turing complete, but even if it is, it's harder to use compared to writing a script.


Wait, you're describing CLI: command line and infinite history. TUI is a distinct thing, it exists on an addressable 2D character grid instead of the bitmapped canvas. For example top and mc are TUI applications, but there's no command line in them (unless you count passing different parameters from the external CLI or a script, which you can also do with a GUI application as it's separate from the interface).

> Every GUI automation is highly non-standard, ad hoc, finicky (usually, depends on exact pixel positions), possibly Turing complete, but even if it is, it's harder to use compared to writing a script.

The same applies to TUI applications. How do you automate top or mc? Don't conflate presentation (which is silly to even attempt automating) with internal logic.

The entire reason for TUI to exist is that TUI apps can be used in a terminal window, alongside CLI, so you don't have to switch to a separate window. But fundamentally it's just "GUI on a character grid".


My issue with the terminal is the exact opposite, everything is monospaced, hard to read, and space-inefficient due to that. Keyboard use is not a terminal-only thing either, it's a problem with some modern UIs that are hostile to power users. I feel it's at least partly because power users that create their own tools removed themselves from serious GUI development and are too busy with fancy TUI doodads and dark themes instead.

I feel like the point of monospace is to be easier to read in text dense environments. I find it much easier to read a monospaced font in the terminal and it makes editing commands much nicer to work with.

The point of monospace is easy vertical alignment in code, tables, logs, and many other types of text. But you definitely lose fast visual shape acquisition and potential density of proportional fonts. CLI is fine conceptually, I'm talking about TUI which is different.

Only those who don't want to see certain things and mirror the Russian propaganda line ("we will never know the truth"). This case is pretty thoroughly investigated, down to the names, timelines, and interviews with people who did this.

Okay, you’re making some claims here, I’m not saying you’re wrong but could you provide some high quality references that contain proof of this?

What's high quality to you? I personally don't consider WaPo, WSJ, and alikes high quality in this case as their investigations are mostly summaries of authorities claims/leaks and OSINT types' findings with little to add, but here you are. [1][2][3] I don't save everything about this, there's a ton more detail floating around, nearly on the same level as MH17.

[1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/11/11/...

[2] https://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/nord-stream-wie-e...

[3] https://www.wsj.com/world/europe/nord-stream-pipeline-explos...


Nvidia's success.

You think the company that supplies every hyperscalers is market leader because of the hobbyist segment? Lol

So, what is the reason only Nvidia supplies the hyperscalers?

they have lots of money and they use that money to pay software engineers (their employees...) to write quality software.

Water is wet. Please check the history of their software stack and why it always was superior to alternatives when they didn't have a lot more money than ATI/AMD. The reason they power hyperscalers is because they catered to enthusiasts and academy researchers attempting to use their GPUs for general purpose computations in early 2000s, since GeForce 3. Then they used that experience to build CUDA which simply worked, and quickly gained mindshare. People have used their software for all imaginable purposes, which was a major factor behind their improvements and eventually becoming market leaders as killer applications for GPGPU have been found (simulation and then AI). This experience is not replicable even with dogfooding, which AMD also doesn't seem to do.

so, all these years AMD just failed to hire good engineers and refused to pay well?

This is what mechanistic interpretability studies are trying to achieve, and it's not yet realistically possible for a general case.

Similarly to how you can never guarantee that one of your trusted employees won’t be made a foreign asset.

I've traveled across Mongolia on a motorcycle many years ago, and one thing I never expected is how absolutely everyone living in a permanent house also has a yurt in their backyard, regardless of how good the house is. This made no sense to me as an outsider (like, do you really need a second house?) so I asked a local about this, and was given a funny look. Yurts are just hardwired into the culture, it's a status symbol, it's where you invite a guest, it's what you use when living outside, it so many things at once.

One of my best Airbnb experiences was staying in a yurt in the backyard of a Mongolian woman…in Wisconsin. It was great. They also had a huge fire pit with tons of chairs around it, and I could tell they loved having tons of people over and just hanging out.

So it's basically Mongolia's answer to the Finnish sauna

Only insofar as both building types are recognized externally as inextricably linked to the culture, right? Sauna is deeply rooted in Finnish culture but not quite to the level or multipurpose use of ger.

sounds like the concept of a pool/guest house to me

Terrorbots look like a ton of other cyberpunk predictions which never really materialized. I think the most recent one was that crypto + anonymity would enable easy assassination bounties and cause a wave of contract killings. Yes, I know the article argues that drones could eliminate the human factor, but it's not convincing and still puts the cart before the horse, just like a lot of the commenters in this thread.

One rule about "infinite scaling" predictions is that the real world always messes them up. Warfare has changed, that's true. The rest of the life is not so easy to change, and (useful) drones are harder to build than it looks.


This terrible and vague stereotyping about "China" while having no clue about the subject should have no place on HN but somehow always creeps in and is upvoted by someone. DeepSeek is not "China", they had nobody to copy from, they released their first 7B reasoning model back in April 2024, it was ahead of then-SotA models in math and validated their approach. They did a ton of new things besides training a reasoning model, and likely have more to come, as they have a completely different background than most AI companies. It's more of a cross-pollination of different areas of expertise.


I thought it had been bandied about that Deepseek had exfiltrated a bunch of data from OpenAI's models, which was then used to train theirs? Did this ultimately prove untrue? My apologies, I don't always keep up on the latest drama in the AI circles - so maybe that has been well proven wrong.


Sam Altman threw a fit and claimed this, without providing evidence. He's... not exactly a person to trust blindly. Training on other model outputs (or at least doing sanity checks against them) is pretty common, but these models seem very different, DS has prior art, and by all signs this claim makes little sense and is hard to believe.


one man's exfiltration is another man's distillation `¯\_(ツ)_/¯`

you could say they're playing by a different set of rules, but distilling from the best available model is the current meta across the industry. only they know what fraction of their post-training data is generated from openai models, but personally i'd bet my ass it's greater than zero because they are clearly competent and in their position it would have been dumb to not do this.

however you want to frame it, they have pushed the field forward -- especially in the realm of open-weight models.


The tone is pretty manipulative and sounds like a weird FUD.

>DoH is not about protecting your DNS queries from peepers. That is a big lie. It is about making sure only one peeper can see all of your queries.

How is this a lie? It does protect your queries from MitM. I doubt anyone ever said anything about protecting from everyone - either you keep a synced copy of the entire DNS database (or its part) locally, or send your query to someone else's computer. How else do you expect it to work?

>Refuse to use it today

"Refuse"? Why???

>Is there an alternative way? Yes, there is. It is called DNS over TLS

How does this eliminate the single peeper? You're still sending your query to someone else's computer. DoT encrypts, so it must be a good thing, right?


They've always been terrible at animation. 10 or 20 years ago, their animations have always been the absolute worst by any contemporary standard (the art used to be too - see Battlespire for some terrible art - but they improved it). Maybe part of that was because of the engine, but I think they just never had the culture for it.

They clearly did try to improve their animations in Fallout 4 in 2013-2014, which is the timeframe the most development happened, so it's not like they're oblivious to their biggest shortcoming as a studio. So what they did in F76 and Starfield is just a regression.


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