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People continue to misunderstand even the above, and think that it's somehow actually conferring them the rights to all the bytes, and the results are hilarious: https://twitter.com/JackShawhan/status/1457951413368016899


That’s obviously not someone being serious.


How can you definitively prove that?


Or rather, the receipt of your purchase of a link. :P


This is a nice idea, and I am glad he includes the "precommitments are even better with a friend" section: An app is something you can always turn off. Betraying a pact you've made with another person is another thing entirely.


Must be copy from a previous product they released.


Unless you were using structures directly from said code, probably not?

Compare if you had only learned writing from, say, the Bible. You would probably write in a very Biblical manner, but would you write the Psalms exactly? Most likely not.


We have seen Co-Pilot directly output (https://docs.github.com/en/github/copilot/research-recitatio...) the zen of python when prompted - there's no reason it wouldn't write the Psalms exactly when prompted in the right manner.


That's super cool. As long as you do the things you specify at the bottom of that doc (provide attribution if copied so people can know if it's OK to use) then a lot of the concerns of people on these threads are going to be resolved.


Pretty much! There's only three major fears remaining

* Co-pilot fails to detect it, and you have a potential lawsuit/ethical concern when someone finds out. Although the devil on my shoulder says that if Co-pilot didn't detect it, what's to say another tool will?

* Co-pilot reuses code in a way that still violates copyright, but is difficult to detect. I.e. If you checked via a syntax tree, you'd notice that the code was the same, but if you looked at it as raw text, you wouldn't.

* Purely ethical - is it right to take licensed code and condense it into a product, without having to take into account the wishes of the original creators? It might be treated as normal that other coders will read it, and pick up on it, but when these licenses were written no one saw products like this coming about. They never assumed that a single person could read all their code, memorise it, and quote it near-verbatim on command.


> Purely ethical - is it right to take licensed code and condense it into a product, without having to take into account the wishes of the original creators? It might be treated as normal that other coders will read it, and pick up on it, but when these licenses were written no one saw products like this coming about. They never assumed that a single person could read all their code, memorise it, and quote it near-verbatim on command.

It's gonna be really interesting to see how this plays out.


I've not seen Copilot in action yet, I was under the impression it doesn't use code directly.

In any case my original question was answered by the tweeter in a later tweet I missed https://twitter.com/eevee/status/1410049195067674625

I get where they're coming from but they are kinda just handwaving it back the other way with the "u fell for marketing idiot" vibe. I wish someone smarter than me could simplify the legal ramifications around this but we'll probably have to wait till it kills someone (or at least costs someone a bunch of money) to get any actual laws set up.


A bit of fun with Prometheus, Grafana and the Twitter API. What's not to like? Watch out, the Grafana image renderer is a real memory hog.


Eh yea, I had some issues with this on a larger scale. Even with loadbalancing it, it was a bit tedious! Still, for out of the box capabilities, I still like it :D


I thought we'd hashed this out about 20 years ago and Stallman et al had retreated back to their basic-HTML caves to think about other things.


What an sadly inevitable and short-sighted move.


Depends a bit on age groups but membership is still pretty high [0].

The collective point is critical - unions negotiate wages as part of a tripartite arrangement in Finland. It's industry-wide sets of wages.

[0] https://yle.fi/uutiset/3-9036556


Who'd have thought that the kid who programmed Theme Park would go on to do this kind of work.


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