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It did for me. You have to be truly heartless to see a dog being sad about not going outside. So you take it for a walk, then another and another. Soon enough you're researching hiking trails in your region and getting healthier.

Dogs are the best.


agreed, with an addendum : we have rescue cats too, and they too are like "nope, off the computer, time to play".

And perhaps because we have both, they all will play games together (and with us humans): the cats are like dogs who can do gymnastics.

the cats will walk outside on leashes but look annoyed and embarrassed. however our feral ancestry dog is like having Richard Simmons on meth...and makes me amused at people who are like "a border collie is a handful". i'm like tell it to her paw.


> If people demand evil, they will make evil, if people demand good, they will make good.

This is so naive.

People do not ask corporations to be evil and they certainly don't demand it. People ask for good value and convenience and corporations respond by doing by amorally pursuing that.

However, when you ask consumers if they want value and convenience at the cost of *evil*, they almost always say no.

Corporations have a demonstrated and well-documented history of actively hiding their evil actions because they know consumers are not aligned with them at all.

If consumers "demand" evil, as you say, then corporations wouldn't try to hide it.


Counterexample.

Even when eggs are clearly labeled "caged" and "free range", many people will buy the "caged" eggs despite the clear implications in terms of animal welfare.

Also, while I consider organic food to be mostly (but not completely) a scam, most people don't buy organic. Which can be interpreted as "if it is cheaper with pesticides than without, I will go for pesticides".

In cars, emission control devices have to me made mandatory and almost no one would pay for them. And even with that, people sometimes break the law to remove them (ex: catalytic converter). It is common for all environmental laws.

Of course, if you talk to people face to face, most will tell you that they don't want value and convenience at the cost of evil, but in private, if can turn a blind eye, they will.

And most of these company evil practices are often not very well hidden. Sometimes, they are genuinely criminal, highly secret operations, but they are often not, as criminal lawsuits are costly, and secrets like that don't last long in big companies. But if it is legal and it brings value convenience to people, people usually don't want to look too much, even when some NGOs try to bring awareness.


I think "caged" is not "evil" in a lot of people's minds. This is NOT society saying "we will look the other way", it's society saying, "that's not evil"

Also, organic doesn't mean, "without pesticides" it means a lot MORE than that. For example, I have no problem buying genetically modified produce. If there was an option for "pesticide free, but not organic because of GMO" I would probably buy that.

Anyways, my point really being, you can't extrapolate that people are looking the other way because of price. All your examples are more of examples of society not being morally aligned to what you are considering evil.


> Even when eggs are clearly labeled "caged" and "free range", many people will buy the "caged" eggs despite the clear implications in terms of animal welfare.

Are many egg cartons actually labeled as "caged" around you? Where I am its either advertised as cage-free or its unlabeled. Its not like the options are "tiny torture chambers": $2.99, "unclean hellscape": $3.99, "rainbows and sunshine": $4.99. Its also hard to tell what these things mean, because "cage-free" can still be a pretty terrible existence for the birds as well.

But I do agree though, if there's a seemingly similar product with a much cheaper price tag a ton of people (myself included) will often reach for the cheaper product.


caged = tiny torture chambers

cage-free / some freeroam = unclean hellscape

good freeroam / organic = rainbows & sunshine


There is nothing that social media provides that a private group chat with your closest people doesn't fulfill.

It could be banned with nothing of value lost.


The whole world seems to be hooked on TikTok, reels and shorts for entertainment.

Reversing that would take some doing.


It's quite dystopian. Seeing people in your family, and friends, just mindlessly consume that shit, for hours upon hours - and many of them are completely oblivious to the fact that these reels and shorts are engineered to keep them engaged.

Using ML/Data to keep people hooked on content - I'd be embarrassed to be an engineer at any of these companies actively destroying our society.


TV had the same effect before the internet. It just had to use less effective Nielsen instead of AI/ML. People make this complaint about all new media when it appears, including books even (well, that kids and adults would spend their time reading trashy novels rather than study the Bible), and later serial articles (which were designed to keep readers hooked with literary cliff hangers so they would buy the next issue).


"The dose makes the poison."

Comparing modern algorithmic/addictive social media to print articles with cliffhangers isn't a serious argument.


There will definitely be hellish withdrawal symptoms.


???? We're on social media right now.


Come on, you know what is meant by "social media" in this context. An algorithmic feed with tuning to be as addictive as possible.

No one outside of someone trying to be obtuse would put HN and Tiktok in the same category.


HN literally has an algorithmic feed and the karma system is the most addictive system used on forums. It's why Reddit is so addictive.

Either HN is part of the evil social media club or the rule for what separates the good ones from the bad ones needs updated. HN and TikTok are different and I think being able to articulate what actually makes them meaningfully different is the first step toward useful legislation.


> No one outside of someone trying to be obtuse would put HN and Tiktok in the same category.

Definitely not the ones enforcing it, when it serves their purpose.


> they're losing the youth when it comes to long-standing foreign policy positions

It's well known that foreign actors are all over social and that the west's foreign policy is (rightly so!) hostile to them.


Social media is the smoking of our age, and it will come to be seen the same way we see smoking now.

Just like the tobacco companies, social media companies have known about the ills of their platforms for a long time and actively hidden it and/or publicly downplayed it.


No: It's more like leaded gasoline. People of the future will be like, "why would you let a big corporation control the feed algorithm?" Social media is fine. It's the algorithm that seeks addiction/engagement that's the problem. Not social media in general.

"Social media" is far too ambiguous anyway. For example, under most definitions, Steam is a social media platform. Yet no one is addicted to sharing things via Steam. But you can! You absolutely can share and browse people's posts, screenshots, videos, and even chat (text and voice)!

The reason why no one complains about Steam's social media features is that they're not designed to be addicting. That's not the point of the platform (it's to sell more games).


And that's exactly why Steam was not included in the Australian bans.


Your mention of cigarettes is apt.

We will come to see social media in its current form the same way we view smoking.


You should look into rbs-inline. It's a huge DX improvement. The community spoke up and they are moving in the right direction now.


AI is thinking the same way a film's picture actually moves.

It's an illusion that's good enough that our brains accept it and it's a useful tool.


> At this point I'd rather use GCP over Azure and I have zero seconds of experience with it.

TBH, GCP is very good! More people should use it.


I know for some people the prospect of losing their Google Cloud access due to an automated terms of service violation on some completely unrelated service is worrisome.

https://cloud.google.com/resource-manager/docs/project-suspe...

I'd hope you can create a Google Cloud account under a completely different email address, but I do as little business with Google as I can get away with, so I have no idea.


That's generally speaking a good practice anyways. My Amazon shopping account has a different email than my Amazon Web Services account. I intuited that they need to be different from the get go.


I haven't used much of GCP, but I have had a good experience with Cloud Run and really haven't found a comparable offering from the other clouds.


Cloud Run is incredible. It’s one of those things I wish more devs knew about. Even at work where we use GCP all the “smart” devs insist on GKE for their “webscale” services that get dozens of requests a second. Dozens!


Isn’t ECS Fargate pretty much the same thing?


ACI is the corresponding service in our favorite cloud.


>I've used AWS, Azure, and recently GCP. You do NOT want to use GCP.

>TBH, GCP is very good! More people should use it.

These takes couldn't be further apart. Gotta love HN comments.


GCP console is not the best but as a long term multicloud user, I can assure you that GCP is much better than Azure portal and/or Azure APIs which is fucking hell


have used both. I prefer Azure. Much easier to use. found GCP unintuitive.


I mean, it's clear he means for the majority of users and OSes... not the HN crowd specifically.


Also, to be clear, I’m mostly goofing about it CLIs, and — as I mentioned in the piece — I use one every day. But yes, there are four or five billion internet users who don’t and never will. And CLIs are a poor user interface for 99+% of the tasks that people accomplish on computing devices, or with browsers, which is pertinent for the point I was making.

If I’d anticipated breaching containment and heading towards the orange site, I may not have risked the combination of humor and anything that’s not completely literal in its language. Alas.


Anil, your blog is too wide for my iPhone 11 Pro’s screen. I have to scroll side-to-side to read it.


Anyone normal knew what you meant


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