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Seaside (http://seaside.st), which powers dabbledb (http://dabbledb.com/).


Thank you.


The OP didn't appear to be "sneering at new users", but complaining about a post that contains nothing but drivel.

That said, the story is scoring well. I blame premature upvoting and the lack of vote take-backs.


Interesting stuff.

Perhaps "startup generators" are an example of free market solutions overcoming market restrictions (e.g. government regulations).

Or maybe startup generators are toll booths constructed by the "ownership class". ;)


If you do decide to go with Python, web.py (http://webpy.org/) is simple and you'll be up and running fast.

If you're interested in how it all works, dig into WSGI. And if you find that web.py is too low level, transition to Django after you have a feel for how web apps work.


Unfortunately webpy is poorly documented. Not good for a beginner. It is better for those people that know python well, and like to have absolute control of what's going on, and don't like the overhead of a large framework.

While webpy is small, I found myself often looking at the code, which has little commenting, to understand what's going on, or how to use a certain feature, mainly b/c the documentation is so lacking.

CherryPy might be a better choice.


No, but the dependency on "horizontal scaling" for medium-traffic web apps is more common due to Rails and one reason I ask.


I didn't mean it in a negative sense.

Indeed, but horizontal scaling has been common before Rails and will be common after Rails, since most web apps are stateless and transaction based. So, even though Apache and mod_blah only runs as one process, you can still horizontally scale. With rails it is apparently common to have more than one process per server.


If you want a VPS for Lisp (SBCL), I recommend Slicehost.

I tried Linode out for a week, but had trouble getting SBCL (w/threads) running on their new Xen nodes - but their support was spectacular.

I've also been a long time customer of OCS Solutions. Not the best pricing but they're just too friendly and responsive for me to move.


The view server can be swapped out.

More here: http://www.couchdbwiki.com/index.php?title=View_Server_Proto...

There's already Python, Ruby, and PHP servers.


It's not imaginary, but it is unimportant. Spend a day in #haskell, #python, or #ruby asking basic questions about the language, then repeat in #lisp.

There are helpful people in the CL channel, but most newbie assistance ends with the veteran delivering a scolding. That doesn't consistently happen in other language channels, but perhaps it should.


It shouldn't if said language wants to stay popular. Community will always trump any flaw.


If you're looking to optimize for learning, choose a more powerful language that you don't yet know: Python, a Lisp, or Scala.


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