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It depends. According to the link this lock was supported for over ten years, and the landscape for this type of device was pretty Wild West back then. There are a lot of devices that never even got that much support.

Today, give me any HomeKit supported device and I’m satisfied it will work for as long as I need it to without some dodgy 3rd party app siphoning my data.

And let’s be honest, if you were buying fridges or washing machines based on WiFi features that’s on you. Locks and lights have legitimate uses for remote control and always have.


> And let’s be honest, if you were buying fridges or washing machines based on WiFi features that’s on you.

I don't understand what you mean by this? My clothes will smell really bad if I leave them in the washer wet. If the appliance has a leak, I need to be nearby to remediate. Thus its not safe for me to start the appliance before I leave for 8+ hours.

If I can remotely start my washing machine, just prior to me arriving home, I can move the clothes to the dryer.


Don't most washers and dryers have timed start like dishwashers do? I always remember mine having pictures like that but maybe that's just not a common thing

Delayed start is common for washers but not for clothes dryers (as you really don't want wet laundry just sitting there in the appliance for hours..)

Pretty common in dryers as well.

They turn over and blow cold air periodically to prevent them getting stinky.


but why???? If i have already gotten off my ass to go throw the clothes in it and so I'm literally standing right next to it, in what universe won't I just press "start" and instead press a bunch of buttons to set up a timer?

If you want to run it overnight, or while you're at work, so it finishes as you arrive and doesn't leave the clean clothes in a clump for hours (or so it runs during cheaper power hours)

>and doesn't leave the clean clothes in a clump for hours

As opposed to having your clothes be in a wet clump for hours? Between the two choices I'd prefer it being dry, because I know at least there will be less microbial activity.


In Japan, most regions have cheaper electricity at night, sometimes at up to 50-60% discounts. That might be a factor as well.

It’s not common to have separate units here though. Much easier to setup a wash/dry cycle timer.


They also sell combo units (mostly for small apartments), so you don't actually have to move the clothes to one from the other

Remote start, and finish notifications, are genuinely useful things.

At the same time, I don't know if they're actually worth the downsides of needing to create an account, having hackable IoT things, installing an app per appliance brand (at least), etc vs, say, a timer and/or delay.


Yeah, I grew up on a rural OTA antenna with one clear channel and two dodgy ones.

The live experience was better for zoning out. That’s about it. You had no choice.

Today I can spend 20 minutes just browsing and never settle on anything. I’m never able to just zone out.


Plenty of other services do this. Plex has a whole cable-style directory of “live” shows

It is not insane if you understand how the U.S. developed.

America was founded by religious groups that couldn’t integrate in Europe. Then western expansion required rugged living and violent displacement of natives, and lawless expanses of frontier.

So we have had puritanical and deeply conservative cultures that are heavily armed for hundreds of years.


That might be the explanation, sure, but it's still as insane.

Well I know that, but still.

This is their Horst Wessel moment. It doesn’t matter what actually happened, it’s just the minimal cover to do what they always planned on doing.

Don’t believe me? Trump literally announced his plans months ago to take down these talk show hosts who were so mean to him

Poor guy :(


Selfish take

And before you downvote me, explain how the concept of charity maps to non-cooperation unless you yourself has something to gain


I don’t use any other social media site. I use this one because I want to have meaningful discussions on things relating to hacker culture

And what could be more relevant to hacker culture than authoritarian takeovers? Is not the entire hacker spirit one that pushes back against someone who tells you that you can’t do X or Y?

How long until the administration turns its focus from late night hosts to hackers who are also publishing things the administration does not want you to know?


> hackers who are also publishing things the administration does not want you to know

As much as I'd like to tell you otherwise, whistleblowers have consistently been treated terribly even before we all were even born.

Yes, the situation is worse now in all sorts of ways, but it was already rock bottom when it came to the treatment of whistleblowers.


Listen, we are allowed to not support businesses or personalities that we find odious. Everyone does it.

This collaboration between corporations and the government to silence political dissent is something else entirely so can we please not “both sides” this ?


In my experience, the buy American crowd says one thing but without exception simply buys the cheapest thing always

What they want is for the best deal to be the local deal, but they are not well off enough to actually take a principled stance on it


It’s both. From the article

> If I start buying European and they start behaving like the US does now, then this rant will just as easily apply to them.


And yet... the article includes examples of European companies behaving like this.

BTW, it's not about how the US behaves. It's about how many companies, some of which happen to be US-based, behave.


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