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Well, hope they’re using int64 and not int32.

Let's constitute the fellowship of the ring :D

SpaceX data LLM being exposed is likely a recipe for a huge ITAR violation


DOGE has probably fired everyone who could pursue those penalties.


If there's actually any proprietary rockety data, maybe. Without knowing what data went into the fine-tune there's no way to tell. This could be a "internal procedures chatbot" or an "onboarding chatbot" where new people can ask where the coolest watercooler in the company is.

In my experience post-training mainly deals with "how" the model displays whatever data ("knowledge") it spits out. Having it learn new data (say the number of screws on the new supersecretengine_v4_final_FINAL (1).pdf) is often time hit and miss.

You'd get much better results with having some sort of RAG / MCP (tools) integration do the actual digging, and the model just synthesising / summarising the results.


Or, since we're apparently playing the game of maybes in this thread, maybe the LLM was only trained on the teams grandmothers' spaghetti recipes, so that new hires can learn to make the best bolognese sauce.


This being Musk, it wouldn't surprise me.

I mean, consider The Boring Company sell a "flamethrower" despite being theoretically about… boring.


I think you missed a lot of the word play. Somebody else has explained Bore[1]-ing vs boring.

But they sold a blowtorch aka not a flamethrower. The difference being a flamethrower actually "throws flames" like 10+ feet.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bore


I didn't miss anything in the wordplay*, it was obvious. (As are the initials, an extra pun).

I put quotemarks around "flamethrower" because that's what it was originally sold as before obvious and predictable legal issues with real flamethrowers and the fact it was obviously mimicing the prop in Spaceballs.

My point is: neither weed burners nor actual flamethrowers have anything to do with digging tunnels nor any adjacent aspect of civil engineering.

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boring_(manufacturing)


Tesla sold a surfboard and whiskey and...

Just saying. It's kinda on brand by not being on brand because the whole network of companies... well I'm trying off topic.


Because Tesla is making.. coils?


Boring as the noun, not adjective. Also, Tesla was named that before Musk was involved, so it’s not his humor involved in naming both. Nikola Tesla is known for a lot more than just Tesla coils.


you haven't seen the releases labeled as Groks new studies yet... Its pretty clear.


Is ITAR like other compliance sort of fields where you have to store data only in compliant places, or is it just based on actual leaks etc.,?


ITAR (International Trafficking in Arms Regulation) is paranoid. Every single specific person that knows even dual-use information, such as composite wing design, must be individually authorized. I’ve been asked to leave the room when my girlfriend, who works for a passenger aircraft manufacturer, was designing a repair for a plane I have literally flew on.

It doesn’t matter how the person got access to dual-use info, like basically everything to do with large rockets, it’s 100% forbidden.


This seems like a company policy more than ITAR. Unless you are not a US citizen, then it could be ITAR.


We’re in Canada, and I’m a US citizen, but she is not.


That's the people aspect of it, but what about the technical aspect of it? Can I store ITAR restricted information in plaintext on a thumb drive if I think it's safe?


It is, but the issue is the current administration has made it abundantly clear that it doesn't care about anything legal.


Probably some new AI/tracking/ad delivery features


It's a speaker system. It plays sound. Why could it possibly have AI, tracking, or ad delivery?


> It's a speaker system. It plays sound. Why could it possibly have AI, tracking, or ad delivery?

To recognize what you listen to, build a profile, feed it back to Samsung, which will use it in deciding what crap to display on your Samsung TV (and any other devices) associated to the same profile. For all we know it's even listening to your conversation in the room, I mean, it's Samsung - they literally do this:

https://entertainment.ie/trending/yes-your-samsung-smart-tv-...

https://www.cnet.com/news/privacy/samsungs-warning-our-smart...


How much benefit could that bring versus burning reputation and losing it all? These companies are so big and powerful but time and time again they keep on forgetting that they can't exist without the users and when users start leaving it's hard to reverse that trend.


Burning Reputation?

It's so out in the open if you know, or more likely, worked in media advertising.

Their competitor, Vizio, owns iSpot[1] which is, in my opinion, the best in the space.

Samba TV[2] is it's nearest competitor and they have their hooks into 24 Smart TV brands globally[3]. These brands are listed on their website as Philips, Sony, Toshiba, beko, Magnavox, TCL, Grundig, Sanyo, AOC, Seiki, Element, Sharp, Westinghouse, Vestel, Panasonic, Hitachi, Finlux, Telefunken, Digihome, JVC, Luxor, Techwood, and Regal.

[1] https://ispot.tv/

[2] https://www.samba.tv/

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samba_TV#Customers


There is no reputation to burn, they're well known to do this kind of stuff by anyone bothering to look it up, and nearly nobody looks it up anyway.

It's a pity because I liked some of their hardware in the past (an NX camera I still have, hard disks back in the IDE stone age, 3 LCD screens back from when they were a novelty - they only had a VGA connector) but I just stay away from them now. But 0.01% of their customers staying away is completely insignificant when they consider the profit opportunity of violating our privacy.


The idea of people getting upset at their tech spying on them is almost laughable at this point.


Come on, did you read more than just the headlines?

> Samsung's spokeswoman continued: " Should consumers enable the voice recognition capability, the voice data consists of TV commands, or search sentences, only. Users can easily recognize if the voice recognition feature is activated because a microphone icon appears on the screen."

So it is not like it was listening without your knowledge. Only when you use the voice features is the data being sent over. Like with every other online service. As much as I don't like samsung, this is a bullshit reason to hate them.

And why provide two links basically saying the same about the same story?


Their competitor, Vizio, owns https://www.ispot.tv/ which is used for ad delivery tracking.

It's much more reliable and precise than the familiar Nielsen ratings: since you know the total audience of X% TV households in a zipcode (which you know demographics of race/income/household size based upon), and Vizio TVs account for Y% of all TVs sold for households with incomes between A and B, and C and D you can get a confidence interval of how many people ACTUALLY saw your TV advertisement.

Samsung was/is probably trying to do something similar: All sound in your TV pipes through their home theater system, so they can "Shazam" whatever media you're watching, regardless of the source (OTT, OTA, hell even YouTube or a Downloaded Torrent on your laptop hooked up via HDMI) and phone home.


Broadcast high frequency tunes in the background for other devices to pick up to identify you.


Dogs hate this one simple trick


on android you can install SoniControl Firewall to "see" the ultrasonics in your house. Try it with all tvs and things off, then try it with the TV on, youtube videos, and so on.

Pixel tracking works better if the TV is connected to the internet. I remember samsung as one of the companies, where, if your TV was not ever given a wifi connection, it would attempt to connect to any open network to do what it needed to do. This sounds unlawful, so i don't know the veracity, but anyhow - if the TV is online, it can just send a half dozen pixels at known locations back home and there is a database of "content pixels at timestamps" and they match the half dozen pixel values to the database and know what you're watching to some degree of certitude.

but for things like dumb panels older TVs and the like, ultrasonics still work.


Insert ads into the music the customer is playing, using AI to find pauses, and track what songs they're playing for data gathering?


> using AI to find pauses,

You can just use regular math to do this. We've been doing it for 30 years now. You don't need a trumped up overpriced garbage LLM to do anything for you here.


Yeah but why would anyone actually buy that then?


You are asking the right question, but to the wrong person.


You're not thinking like a true capitalist.

Sure, you got your $2,000 out of the customer. But what about the money you could be making between now and the next time the customer buys something?

You're giving up on tens of dollars a year by not tormenting the people who gave you money already and might do so again.


Use the speakers as a microphone! WE HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY!


They usually already have mics to do automatic EQ calibration


Didn't know that, thanks. Then speakers are actually a pretty big data source. I bet most people don't assume their speakers can be listening. I wonder if you can get internet connection over bluetooth aux or what'd be the best way to get someone to let you send data home on a speaker.


i did some cursory digging, but i don't really want to read the A2DP or AVRCP specifications to see how much data is allowed in the non-audio payload. Besides, PAN exists, but i imagine you have to do something on your phone to allow it.

Most of these expensive things also have wifi, though, don't they?

> Connect your devices and control everything with our soundbar that integrates your favorite voice assistants and smart services like Built-in Alexa², Chromecast³, Airplay 2⁴ and more.

> 802.11ac

https://www.samsung.com/us/televisions-home-theater/home-the...

yeah, they have wifi, so they don't even need bluetooth hacks.


Because customers love AI! /s


Few things over the past few years have infuriated me as much as tracking and advertising being introduced at the OS level, especially on TVs. I'm looking at you, LG! I will gladly pay more for a TV that doesn't try to advertise Roku's streaming service to me or track my kids' watch history. Seems like they are few and far between, though.

The best thing we have been able to come up with is leaving the TV itself disconnected from the WiFi and using an Apple TV for smart features/streaming. I'm sure they're still gathering data but it's at least not as blatant. It's a real crapfest for the consumer at the moment.


This is sound advice for keeping yourself free from malware as well. Many of these TVs end up running super vulnerable junk that doesn’t get updated and has known exploits.

I’ve had two devices end up with malware like this. A Sony blue ray player that was uploading 2gig a month before I caught it and a Samsung tv.

It’s worth mentioning you have to block or change WiFi credentials. The device with malware may attempt to connect to any known wifi even if you disable it on the device. I get 45000 auth attempts a day from my tv.


> I will gladly pay more for a TV that doesn't try to advertise Roku's streaming service to me or track my kids' watch history. Seems like they are few and far between, though.

Plug in an Apple TV?


This just swaps one locked-down company for another. You're still at the mercy of a giant corp, and worse it's unlikely to work well with my linux laptop and Android phone whereas at least Samsung tries (and often fails). A better solution is needed. I buy Sceptre TVs when I can, though for a "big screen" there aren't great options.


That's... not a TV, it just has TV in its name.


Apple TV is just as bad (and in the context of the OP's statement, would be the same as a Roku box or an Amazon Firetv).


Yeah, we do use Apple TV because at the very least if they are collecting our data, they're not using it to advertise directly to us on the same device. My parents have a Roku TV and the number of ads it serves up directly on the device leave me feeling nauseous.


Anyone who uses smart tv features and connects one directly to the internet is insane.


Id extend that to all smart TVs and all 'smart' devices as such.


They will be bailed out before rents are allowed to decrease. Number only goes up now


Whether they're bailed out or not has nothing to do with rent going down. Unless the tenants own it, or the government subsidies it, the cost will pretty much be the same or higher. Even if the new owner gets it at a discount, the taxes higher rates, desire for profit, and overhead will still put it in a similar price range.


The AI said it was ok to deploy


I blame the Copilot


Good, I don't want any more responsibility.


My thoughts exactly :-). Remote and fewer responsibilities are a win-win situation for some of us.


Security theater is so funny


Ok so next you're going to go after PPP loan forgiveness, right? I'll wait.


The difference is PPP loan forgiveness was approved by Congress.

Not saying it wasn’t poorly designed and implemented, and subject to massive levels of fraud - but forgiveness was clearly embedded into the law from the beginning.


It's an important difference. The White House basically pulled this broad student forgiveness policy out of their butts. They didn't have Congressional approval to do so, and were rightfully checked.

>We hold today that the Act allows the Secretary to ‘waive or modify’ existing statutory or regulatory provisions applicable to financial assistance programs under the Education Act, not to rewrite that statute from the ground up.


The enabling law for this policy was the 2003 HERO's Act, which has been used prior to Biden's student loan forgiveness plan to modify loan conditions.

So this policy was approved by Congress.


The Biden administration used the emergency of the pandemic to justify loan forgiveness under the Heroes Act.

…Except the exact same week student loan forgiveness was announced, Biden went on 60 minutes and announced that the pandemic was over.

So even if you accept the argument that the Heroes act justified widescale forgiveness, the Biden administration did itself no favors selling that argument.


The cited reason in statute for the ability to waive or modify student loan provisions was to provide relief for hardship during a national emergency. Just because the emergency was technically near completion doesn't mean that there wasn't broad hardship that could be given relief.

Just like, say, the official national emergency of katrina ended waaaayyy before many of those affected no longer faced hardship from the emergency.


(Hurricane Katrina was never a national emergency.)


President Bush declared Katrina to be a national emergency on August 27, 2005.

http://web.mit.edu/12.000/www/m2010/finalwebsite/katrina/gov...

> Before Hurricane Katrina made landfall, Governor Katherine Babineaux Blanco declared a state of emergency in Louisiana on August 26, 2005, and asked President Bush to do the same at the federal level the next day, a request with which he complied. This authorized FEMA to organize and mobilize resources as it saw fit to help the residents of New Orleans (Office of the Press Secretary 2005).


That source does not support the claim, in particular not containing the word "national".


A federal level emergency is a national emergency.


The Republican Supreme Court cited a new conservative legal doctrine know as the "major questions doctrine" to issue this ruling.

Biden's own words aren't relevant.


I think his words are relevant. Whether or not the Supreme Court chose to cite them in this case.

I don’t think we should be cheering when our government digs for legal loopholes to get around the fact that it can’t pass a bill through Congress.


It's not a new doctrine, it's separation of powers.


I think both the ruling (and the major questions doctrine generally) and Biden's policy are bad.


PPP went through Congress, the Senate, and the President - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paycheck_Protection_Program#Le...

The government wasn't allowing certain businesses to operate and curtailed their operation. PPP was a response to that.

Nobody is forcing you to take on massive student loan debts.


The ability of the secretary of education to "waive or modify" any student loan repayment provisions during a national emergency that congress officially declared in order to provide relief to those affected by the emergency was also approved by Congress, the Senate, and the President.


All the PPP money I got went to my employees like it should have. I do however support going after those that hoarded it for themselves by fraud.


I'm not too up to date on this particular fact, as I disconnected from all that during the pandemic - which companies / businesses hoarded it for themselves?


I could have hoarded it for myself by paying myself a higher wage, or I could have fired all my employees and hired my family members.

I suspect this happened more than a few times.


That definitely should be done. But neither party will go after those people. They are donors after all.


That was a very short time limited emergency program. It's not a good analogy to blanket forgiveness. If this had somehow targeted some weird thing from the pandemic (paying some kind of reparations to students who were in college during '20 and '21 and had their experiences totally screwed up?) then it would be a better analogy.


They will be bailed out guaranteed. Can kicking is the only solution.


I don't think they will be salvaged actually. I think we'll have a combination of less city friendly states not assisting at all leading to companies wanting to force office work in some "spilled milk" style fallacy.

There's less than zero chance any of these downtowns will be covered to residential. Offices and homes have very different needs, you basically can't convert.


> Can kicking is the only solution.

Oh come on, we can do far more than can kicking. There is always war, revolution, and decades of economic hardship!


> decades of economic hardship

That one is can kicking.


If we selectively hide things from view all the world's problems will go away


Read the code? You can try to import it but you'll get a message explaining the problems with it and a link to where to find it shall you decide you'd like to use it anyway. It's the opposite of hiding.


Putting unnecessarily gates in front making the process non-standard is not the opposite of hiding.. perhaps somewhere inbetween


They suggest an alternative of the same type without these issues.


This is a very small collection of toy datasets that this machine learning library includes for the purpose of illustrating the behavior of the library: http://scikit-learn.org/stable/datasets/toy_dataset.html

It’s out of the scope of this library to publish all datasets in existence or highlight particular datasets that are relevant to particular societal problems. It’s literally just a few datasets so that you can play around with the ML library without downloading any external datasets. I think it’s fair to allow them to exercise reasonable discretion in their choice of which toy datasets to ship with their ML library.


.. with AI


My Rights to be included as example data in a tool distribution


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