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“I remain confident that we will have the basic functionality for level 5 autonomy complete this year.”

This type of quote frustrates me to no end because it's obviously meant to stir up attention in the media, yet the vagueness of the language Musk uses removes any accountability to deliver. What is basic functionality for level 5 autonomy? I would define it as automated lateral and longitudinal control and a navigation system, and I would argue that quite a few auto companies have this 'basic functionality' for level 5. I would love to hear other thoughts on this!


Could you explain what you mean by true disagreement with someone is equivalent to hating them?


From the gp comment: >They are using your statement to appeal to others to listen and accept their clearly racist ideas or provable wrong, anti-science ideas.

The people he's talking about are beyond the pale. He's fine disagreeing with people, he even likes to have his point of view challenged- it's just that these people are a step too far; they're not just wrong- they're evil.

An answer is: I've found the people you ACTUALLY disagree with. Insofar as you can be said to hate anyone, it's the people you would gladly exterminate- and feel good doing so. Disagreement with someone on a matter of import automatically causes some small amount of dislike for them. You can still like someone overall! But if they're a great person, except e.g. they think abortion should be illegal, you'll still think less of them than you would have otherwise. My argument is that this dislike scales with how much you disagree with someone; and so, all else being equal, the people you hate most are the ones you disagree with the most strongly- to the point that a will awakes in you to engage against them in righteous wrath.

You see it in the twitter mobs and the witch hunts of old: If people decided to crucify someone, say by going after their livelihood- if, somehow, they thought that was the best way to improve the world- they should do it with their eyes down, shaking their heads, crying "If only it didn't have to come to this- but if we didn't do this, you would have caused even more pain than we. This course of action is a tragedy; but any other would have been worse. Forgive us, but for the good of the nation, you have to die."

They don't- they go after people with glee. It's fun, it's exhilarating; it's a fox-hunt. You can read it in people's testimonials about being part of a twitter job-lynchmob: Everyone enjoys it till they're the one on the chopping block!

Real Disagreement, as I would call it, is that kind that honestly provokes the aforementioned emotion: the desire to see someone destitute and homeless, if not dead, and the frame of mind where you could look at the result with pride. I'd call that hate.

(You can hate people for other reasons, of course.)


I'm not sure I understand your counterpoint analogy. Regardless, I take issue with your second statement on the blind person asking for help if needed. Minorities do ask for help, I think it's disingenuous to imply that minorities have never requested assistance in being treated more like the majority. I think many times we push responsibility for achieving equality onto those who are treated unequally, the old 'pull yourself up by your bootstraps'. Martin Luther King Jr: "it's a nice thing to say to people that you oughta lift yourself by your own bootstraps, but it is a cruel jest to say to a bootless man that he oughta lift himself by his own bootstraps."


Yep - my family makes a trip to Frankenmuth in November/December each year. We walk around the shops downtown, get stuffed with fried chicken and those delicious noodles at Zehnders, and then wrap up with a walk around Bronner's.


Logic isn't the industry standard though. PT has long been thought of as the industry standard, although that's changed recently with Cubase/Ableton Live/FL/Logic becoming massively popular as well. Really depends on genre/application (EDM, acoustic, film/game/media, etc).


Why can't there be multiple definitions for hustle? I agree that your street smart definition is valid, but I also think that energetic teamwork is an equally valid definition.


I wish there could be, but thanks to the "street" definition, when people hear the word "hustle" used inside a startup, many of them take it to mean, "This is an environment where dishonest, predatory behavior will be celebrated as ambition."

"Hustle" was one of my favorite words growing up, because it described something I admired and wanted to embody myself, but I have retired it from my active vocabulary outside of sports contexts, because if it's misunderstood, it's going to be misunderstood as something that I loathe.


My entire experience with "hustle" in the context of making money was as a near-synonym for scamming people. Not until I encountered HN and related startup culture did I read/hear it used in that sense. I bet if I told most people I know without such exposure anything like "hustling is an important part of my business' success" they'd look at me funny, as they'd take it as an admission I commit lots of fraud or something similar.

Yeah there's the meaning in sports which was probably the first I ever encountered, but it's pretty different from the startup/business definition (one might relate them, but they seem to me to carry pretty different connotations) and again, in the context of some kind of money-making venture my association with it was 100% "scamming folks".


Well, there are multiple definitions of hustle. They keep changing with the times and also depending on who you talk to. What one party might consider "selling", another might consider "being preyed upon". What one might consider "courteous", another might consider "sexist".

We are so eager to try and find a neat place for all our interactions. It never works like that. Pretty much everything ends up being relative.

Anywho, as far as definitions go "energetic teamwork" to me does not really qualify, because hustling in any commonly used sense is not at all required to be a team effort.


> Anywho, as far as definitions go "energetic teamwork" to me does not really qualify, because hustling in any commonly used sense is not at all required to be a team effort.

The point of hustle in the “kids sports team” context is that a team that “hustles” can beat an equally skilled team that doesn’t. In my experience this is also true of other kinds of teams and even in contests among individuals.


Where the street vs. earnest definitions overlap is it means to "seize the initiative." You get leverage in both contexts, the question is whether you seize the initiative by having something to offer, or by fabriating problems for for your target to solve.

A sign-up wizard that splits up users' PII entry so they are invested in the process by the time it asks them for the valuable stuff is a good UX tech example.

Spam messages that pretend to be bills or from an authority are well into dishonest territory. The key difference seems to be in the honesty of the problematization. It's a continuum.

The best hustles play on the target's conceits, the worst on their virtues. 3-card monte plays on greed and a sense of superiority.

Business ones are basically blackmail like, "everyone thinks you're a smart problem solver who is easy to work with, if you want that to continue to be true, you will solve this problem for me, I'll let you know when you're finished." Less tech oriented, but the leverage pattern is similar.


Because there is a lot of difference between the two and yet both definitions are in the same general domain. So if you use the word and mean one definition, but the person you are talking to hears the other definition, you are in for some most interesting communication problems. If you tell me that you are good a hustling during a job interview, I will most definitely not hire you.


Because when you say one and mean the other, it legitimizes the wrong kind of behaviour, and people don't have the words to describe it so they check out and call it "toxic."


I actually don't think tenders is included in the order... I think they just ordered the ranch dip cups you would get if you ordered nuggets.


correct.. the dip cups are ~1g carbs per cup, the salad dressing packets are around 12g (mostly sugars) iirc.


Exactly! If Steph was 7'1", my bet is he would rely more on playing closer to the basket (like Shaq did) and would not have had a need to develop his 3-point shooting to the level that it is today. Also, how do we know that Shaq at 6'3" wouldn't have developed into a different style of pro player?


Really fascinating article, and once again a reminder that hardware and software are two different animals with different timelines and processes.

2 humorous tidbits and 1 scary: >>The eight in Building 8 represented the number of letters in Facebook. Its physical location was inside Building 59 on Facebook’s main campus in Menlo Park, California.

So the Building 8 team is not actually at a building called Building 8, but Building 59?

>>The exclusive invitations had arrived in the form of stainless steel slabs. To get into the event, attendees handed their invitation to a staffer, who put the slabs onto a machine programmed to cut the metal into a bottle opener. The staffer then handed back the bottle opener, along with a beer.

Just... peak Silicon Valley.

>>In early 2018, the remaining research projects were moved to Oculus Research, which has since been rebranded as Facebook Reality Labs, based in Redmond, Washington. That’s where the company is working on a brain-reading interface — a noninvasive wearable device that will allow people to type using their thoughts.

The implications of this type of technology (especially used by FB) make me really uncomfortable. The ability to access, store, and analyze user thoughts is something that has the potential to be used in very wrong ways. Just another way to get even more specific and targeted user information, potentially information that I never intended on sharing with Facebook. What do other people think about this technology? Am I crazy?


Simpler and repetitive does mean worse - for you. I actually agree with you, but I know plenty of people that love club/dance music, which is about as simple and repetitive as you can get. I think it's important to take the context of the music being played/performed as well: a simple, repetitive piece would likely not be received well in an orchestra hall, while a song with complex melody, deep lyrics, and rich harmony would likely be skipped at a football tailgate party. Music serves several functions in many different environments, and labeling a piece or style as universally worse is almost never true.


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