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Facts are not a thing the government is interested in now

> Facts are not a thing the government is interested in now

They’re not too keen on the world either. Or books.


in particular, these are facts that are officially released by an organ of the US Government responsible for accurate information.

these details are useful for things like immigration and asylum cases, and other complaints that involve the FedGov.


Nor is soft power.

The factbook was much more a tool for propaganda than anything else. While you could trust most of the numbers, you shouldn’t expect it to be fair about any socialist or communist countries, usually classified as brutal dictatorships, while it would always be exceedingly kind to countries with US sponsored dictators.


I'd be interested to see concrete examples of this, if they exist.

by "this"... that the current US govt isn't interested in soft power?

They wanted examples of propaganda in the World Factbook probably.

It starts with framing the CIA as a neutral entity, which it is not. It's a form of metapropaganda, in which a propaganda outlet characterizes itself as a neutral provider of information.

One example that comes to mind is Patrice Lumumba's assassination, allegedly authorized by the American government. There is no mention to Lumumba's government that started in 1960.

Venezuela's entry has the same issue pointed out in the DPRK's - the negative impact of sanctions imposed by the US on the economy is not mentioned, and is described as "chaotic economy due to political corruption".

It is subtle, but it is propaganda as well.


I would also like to see a comparison to prove the point.

> you shouldn’t expect it to be fair about any socialist or communist countries, usually classified as brutal dictatorships,

The World Fact Book doesn't have this kind of commentary. For example read the entry on North Korea. I've excerpted the most critical parts here, and I think they are a long way from your characterization:

> After the end of Soviet aid in 1991, North Korea faced serious economic setbacks that exacerbated decades of economic mismanagement and resource misallocation.

> New economic development plans in the 2010s failed to meet government-mandated goals for key industrial sectors, food production, or overall economic performance. At the onset of the COVID-19 pandemic in 2020, North Korea instituted a nationwide lockdown that severely restricted its economy and international engagement.

> As of 2024, despite slowly renewing cross-border trade with China, North Korea remained one of the world's most isolated countries and one of Asia's poorest

https://web.archive.org/web/20260103000011/https://www.cia.g...


Blaming DPRK's "economic mismanagement" while making no mention of the Western sanctions on DPRK which are the cause of its catastrophic economic and humanitarian situation, as well as its isolation. Yep, that's a classic trick with State Department propaganda. There are never any huge whoppers, instead the lies they tell are through omission and the subtle shifting of blame ("If Venezuela didn't want to be bombed, they should have given us their oil", etc) in order to craft a narrative that's incongruent with reality.

>Blaming DPRK's "economic mismanagement" while making no mention of the Western sanctions on DPRK which are the cause of its catastrophic economic and humanitarian situation

The catastrophic humanitarian situation IS the cause for the sanctions.


also the nukes. and shooting missiles over japan.

parent poster seems to want to ignore their decades of poor behavior and sheer brutality.

e.g. NK just executed people for watching squid game.


While that is true, the current government makes heavy use of propaganda too.

True, but they have abandoned the subtlety of the factbook.

The suggestion that obvious propaganda is somehow better than "subtle" propaganda is itself propaganda.

Obvious propaganda plays a role in the destruction of a shared objective reality, which is part of the authoritarian playbook. Subtle propaganda distorts reality but preserves the notion of a shared objective one and does not intend to undermine trust.

When a government uses blatant, easily disproven lies, but doubles down on the lies and continues with increasingly absurd ones, there is no space for subtlety or trustworthy sources in that government.


Yep. This seems somewhat similar in motivation to the cuts to USAID.

If they're not safe then why does the data show they're safer than humans?

Why will they never be safe?

Also can you define safe?


The fact you think $200 per month is sane is amusing to people in other countries

Hell, I was paying €180/yr for my New Beetle a decade ago...

Haha, yes, today already sucks badly in many US markets. Imagine what will happen when the only people driving cars manually are "enthusiasts".

Is that low or high?

I'm guessing that other developed countries don't need 6-7 figure injury coverage.

MS invented MSI installers, Office didn't use them, they don't seem to believe in anything


Just tax everything the amount it costs to clean up the pollution it causes, then use that money to clean up the pollution, now everything will have the correct price including externalities


Teenagers pick free software because a) they're broke, and b) there's way more videos about the free software on Youtube. 10 years later they pick the same software at their job


The Linux (and LAMP, etc.) adoption happened before YouTube, Stackoverflow, ChatGPT and the other recent ways that people decide what tools to use, when they have a choice.

Agreed, the tools you learned in school influenced what you use in your job (when you had a chance to influence that), and that was understood by marketers since before Linux. I even know one top CS department that was threatened by a major software company of no internships and other sanctions, if they moved to Linux rather than teach classes with that company's software, and the company seemed to follow through on the threat when the department did Linux anyway. (Nowadays, CS departments are run more like vocational schools, or hoping students do startups, and are generally teaching whatever tools they think industry is using at the moment, rather than leading.)

Related: Apple aggressively getting the Apple II series into schools, influencing what's bought in affluent homes, even before the students are old enough to get jobs.


Apple's Classroom says it allows locking to a single app

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/classroom/id1085319084


Then it can't work. Textbook, website for the problems, notes app, etc. Multitasking is required when the answers are input online (which is a problem itself).


Agreed, tax based on damage to road, and then tax fuel the amount it costs to clean up the pollution the fuel causes, and then use the money to clean up the pollution it causes. Then who cares if you fly your private jet, or giant car, you just pay for it.

Side effects include: reduced pollution, and cheaper ways to clean up pollution



Try explaining files to a kid these days


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