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just to let the kid know, I'm one of the investigators. I hate being taunted with any type of cryptocoin, cash of any denomination. I also hate gold and silver. I won't sleep until I catch you or $10 whichever comes first.


if you get caught. just saw a video on a couple who stole a Brinks armor car; disappeared into Europe with new identities; never caught until female turned herself in. Not everybody gets caught.


Is that same or different from the gang who robbed an armored car for about $100M worth of goods, and ICE stopped the prosecution and deported one of the robbers, before the stolen goods were recovered?



Sure, if you get caught. It's a huge risk though..


I don't believe Google would is hiring illegal immigrants.


The two people recently killed in Minneapolis were both US citizens.


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Alex Pretti escalated the situation? Have you seen the video? Did you see how the ICE agent shoved that woman? That was not “law enforcement activity.” It was assault. Alex Pretti had every right to be there, and he tried to help a woman who was being physically and illegally assaulted.

> I haven't heard of ICE hurting any actual immigrants in custody

https://www.aclu.org/news/immigrants-rights/detained-immigra...


Re: Minnesota - Everyone out there escalated the situation. Detaining people could be a very boring process, and I haven't seen any footage of any of the detained people starting any fights. Seems like it's mostly leftist white "heroes" running around.

I fully agree that it's terrible that those people have been shot to death by ICE officers, pretty much regardless of anything. But what I'm asking is what they're even doing out there? Why do it?

It seems more like these protests are not about the specific individuals being detained, but a cool group activity to engage in now, so what makes all illegal immigrants, who respect our country so little that their first interaction with it is to sneak in, automatically deserving of being shielded from the consequences of their own actions?

Re: ACLU - it's interesting that it seems like all those who are claiming harm are Mexicans who were given the choice to go back home to Mexico but refused. (If their claims are true, those officers should be punished and fired, but also can you think of any good reasons for detainees to lie about this if they're desperate to be allowed to stay?) Should the US admit all 130 million Mexicans as refugees, just on the grounds that Mexico is allegedly so bad? Or only the ones who break the law and come here?

I'll support accountability for ICE officers who do bad things all day, but it seems like the leftist goal posts are "Don't have immigration officers exist at all, and don't let local law enforcement even consider helping get people deported" and that's why people think Dems want open borders.


They were both engaged in legal and literally otherwise safe behavior. The only chaotic element there was ICE - in both cases initiating unnecessary violence. To make political point of terrorizing the citizens.


sounds like you have an opportunity to open a grocery store?


This is the tragedy of the commons.


Illegal in what way? They are not allowed to set prices lower than competitors or raise them at any time?


Predatory pricing is illegal in the US, but difficult to prosecute under the existing laws.


What is “predatory pricing” vs. “pricing”?


Selling items for less than they cost to produce is known as "dumping" in international trade (where it is generally disallowed by trade organizations) and can be illegal in the US if the intent is to eliminate competition [0]. That last factor can be hard to prove, and I don't think the FTC is doing much about anticompetitive behavior these days.

[0]: https://www.ftc.gov/advice-guidance/competition-guidance/gui...


Yes, I can imagine it’s hard to prove, which is a pretty good indicator it’s a slippery concept to being with. Everyone wants to “eliminate the competition”, including your competition!


The predatory pricing pattern the FTC would in theory sure over would be: selling items at an artificially low price until the competition goes out of business, then raising prices once you are the only seller left standing. It's the second step that makes it anticompetitive instead of just competitive


What does it mean to be “the only seller left standing”? If somebody’s out there making big margins because they don’t face competition, competition is likely to emerge!


Yes, but the monopoly seller has already demonstrated that they will operate at a loss until their competitors go out of business, which is a pretty big deterrent to any new market entrants. They've also demonstrated that no one will be making any money until either the monopolist or the new entrant is out of business, so who would actually launch a new business in that environment?


“Imagine profitability doesn’t matter to ownership, and investors will accept losses—and less losses than a more efficient competitor—indefinitely.”

Even Amazon had to eventually find its way to profitability.


Yeah, it is theoretically possible to have a marketplace where "predatory pricing" is an accepted though aggressive business strategy, and I'd say that we are roughly there in the US. But the original intent behind the law on the books was to make markets friendly to new entrants, even if that meant sometimes constraining what large participants were allowed to do.


This is an historical question I’m not equipped to answer, but I’d guess it was just the opposite: These laws were intended to protect incumbents from more efficient, better financed new competitors!


Selling it at cost though isn’t. And the cost to make a good is often less than 50% retail


Standard grocery margins are usually lower, in the 30%-40% range, and are often much lower for promotional items. Rotating "loss leaders" to get people in the door are standard practice. IMHO that would make it hard to bring an antitrust action against a grocery chain, as pretty much every store engages in a limited amount of predatory pricing as a marketing technique.

50% is the standard retail markup, but it varies by industry.


I'd be unsurprised in this case that Amazon could produce the product profitably for less than half the cost due to scale.


I don't think Amazon was producing anything they sold in their grocery stores. They were probably buying the same white label items as everyone else for their store brand.


The Biden admin went slightly harder against anti-competitive actions and anti-consumer actions by companies and all the billionaires freaked out and poured money into Republican campaigns in 2024 in order to roll all that back.


What was rolled back? There was no major change in action whatsoever, only rhetoric, which is meaningless. As for funding, Trump raised substantially less in 2024 than 2020 while Harris raised more money than any campaign ever has, by a wide margin. [1] Dark money also overwhelmingly flowed to the DNC. [2] And a large chunk of all of Trump's funding came after the previous administration tried to imprison him, which rather freaked people out - even those not particularly fond of him. That also likely played a significant role in the more DGAF presidency we're seeing today relative to 2016.

[1] - https://ballotpedia.org/Presidential_election_campaign_finan...

[2] - https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/dark...


> As for funding, Trump raised substantially less in 2024 than 2020 while Harris raised more money than any campaign ever has, by a wide margin.

Does that include the $44b spent on the Twitter acquisition?


Enforcement.


To add onto sibling comment: it is specifically when they sell below cost to eliminate competition, with the goal of later being able to raise prices to recover those losses (and more) once they are the only player in town and can jack the prices up all they want. The later price elevations are what result in consumer harm, which is why it is illegal.


Predatory pricing:

A big gorilla comes in and under prices the entire market. They can do that because they already have tons of money. They do this long enough to break the market and drive the competition out of business. Once the competitors are gone they jack up the prices to unprecedented levels because there's no more alternatives available and bleed the market for all the money.

Regular pricing:

Charge a fair price based on actual costs.


This presupposes some athletic new competitor can’t enter the market and take the margin off the fat incumbent.

It’s why we have capital markets: If capturing a profitable opportunity requires spending some money, someone who wants to profit will send that money your way.


But it should only be because they indeed have lower margins or more efficient operations. It should not be funded by external money (other departments or investors), only to undercut competition too force them out only to raise prices to above the previous point after.

So a simple law could be that prices can only be raised to the point where they were at before the competition was squashed.


You can do this to a low margin business. In fact you can increase the margin once the dust settles.


Which means it’s actually: legal and widespread


No it means it’s illegal and enforcement agencies don’t have the means and/or political support to prosecute.


> Amazon duped his product and sold it at something crazy, like half price

Pricing below an appropriate measure of cost is generally considered predatory pricing. It is very difficult to enforce this, but that doesn't change the fact that it could be illegal and a violation of antitrust laws.


Amazon could also have the resources/know-how/volume to manufacture a comparable product that could be sold for half the cost


Then that is okay as long as they don’t raise the prices after the competition is gone.


That's literally their MO. They've been doing that forever.


"It's a terrible long term lubricant" it's not even a lubricant


It is a lubricant, even water is a lubricant https://a.co/d/2JHYXP7


sprayed on motherboard and ssd. didn't work at all


silly goose, everyone knows you have to use fresh lemon juice on motherboards and ssds. the electrolytes from the lemon help speed up and cleanse the circuitry.


And it will remove excess fat from the zeros so the move faster down the wires


so basic economics?


Sure. You're a "specialist" but roam about doing anything and everything? That's the complete opposite of a specialist. I'm a networking expert but I just roam around fixing computer issues just like a basic tech.


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