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I suggest: A Gentle Introduction to Symbolic Computation

https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/LispBook/book.pdf


I don understand: If there are so many developers willing to contribute with non OCaml languages, why they don't just implement their own mod installer in Perl, Java, PHP or whatever a "sane" language is?

I don't get what's miserable or unhappy about criticizing the political incoherence of some people. You may disagree with them, but why the personal attacks?


> but why the personal attacks

He doesn't realize how this behaviour validates my point.


If you won't say who is the person you're talking about, can you at least tell an example of that cringe behavior?


It isn't I won't say. It is I can't remember because I pretty much insta-block it when I see it.

Some notable examples of stuff I've seen in Linux / Tech land the last few months:

- One person was dressed in a furry lizard suit, while compiling gentoo.

- Another person made a song about Debian packages. I thought it was a gag at first.

- Another woman was dressed in a school girl outfit, cat ears and a push up bra (not sure she was Linux stuff, but it was tech).

I am not expecting everyone to be some greybeard in his office but some of it is a bit much and sometimes they have really good info in the video, but the initial impression is so jarring that it will put people off (I had people tell me this).

I actually made my own YouTube channel because I was trying to find decent information to send to someone who was a new Linux user without this BS. I ended up making videos myself detailing how to setup a bunch of stuff up.


> It isn't I won't say. It is I can't remember because I pretty much insta-block it when I see it.

Go to your masto instance and navigate to /blocks to see these users. Or on BlueSky, use clearsky.app.

It's possible to find a breadcrumb for what you're "remembering".


I am mainly talking about YouTube. I mainly lurk on other platforms, but the same people are there.


OK, so check your YouTube watch history?

The point we're making in this thread is that we aren't seeing the same things you are, and it's highly likely that whatever comments you're thinking about are not representative of the kinds of opinions people in tech hold.


I am not going back through months worth of YouTube history to satisfy people have insinuated that I have been lying on a claim that isn't even that controversial. I mainly watch car and canal boats videos these days and don't bother with tech stuff outside of security and home lab bits and pieces.

I was trying to find videos palatable to someone that is interested and just wants to run something reliable instead of Windows. I didn't find any.

> The point we're making in this thread is that we aren't seeing the same things you are, and it's highly likely that whatever comments you're thinking about are not representative of the kinds of opinions people in tech hold.

Linux cringe is a thing that been a complaint for a while. That why people do copy-pasta of the GNU\Linux stuff, the "programmer socks" meme, "I run arch BTW" and there is the infamous dropbox post made on here back in 2008.

Most people that don't exist in online world, find all of this very weird and off putting.


Yet you still show no receipts. So, until you do, I shall remain skeptical.


You are asking for something unreasonable i.e. I go through possibly several months of YouTube history in a comment section argument to "prove" that there people in the Linux community that do weird and cringey things, which is something that they are known for.

This is after you insinuated that I lied less than two comments ago. You put remembering in scare quotes and some other dude told me I was a "clown" because I can't remember username I saw months ago.

So no. I won't be doing that for you or anyone else now.


Then your claim won't be believed. Simple as that.


Tbh, from your nickname you wouldn't agree with this person's claims either way.

(I agree with your point, tho)


You'd think that, but I'm as much a critic of the worst parts of the furry community as any outsider.

And, to practice what I preach, here's some evidence:

https://soatok.blog/2025/06/12/furries-need-to-learn-that-su...

https://soatok.blog/2022/06/21/a-greymuzzles-lament/ +


What you asked me to do was overly onerous for a discussion. Even if I found the links and gave you them, I will be told there isn't a problem (especially judging by the username) and I am "taking things too seriously".

There is huge amount of cringe and embarrassing behaviour in the Linux community and Tech community in general. It is well known and denying it is utterly disingenuous.


I think if people want a more powerful, programmable config language, maybe they should use something like Lua or Scheme instead of reinventing the wheel with those new niche languages.


For correctly obeying the rules, you first need to understand and interpret them.


Any scientific source on that "well accepted fact"?


I don't think they are saying "proprietary" as in "secret, closed source", but just as in "custom format" that is built around one particular application.


I assume those scripts are edited on a regular desktop/laptop computer and then uploaded to the phone


Or you can do it by connecting a keyboard and a screen to the phone.


> I do not know what the next-best single-user, single-process, non-bloated OS would be to run on modern hardware that still has some reasonably modern software and can be used for distraction-free (hobby) development the way FreeDOS could.

Not sure why would you want a single-process OS on modern hardware, but there are some alternatives that run much less things on the background than regular Linux: Haiku, FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD, or some lightweight non-glibc, non-systemd Linux-based like Adelie or Alpine.


Or, you know, just booting the Linux kernel with init=/bin/sh with /bin/sh being a statically linked binary. You're overthinking things.


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