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it should have been called chlorine for "Cl" is the cryptography library in "NaCL"

> The N900 that lays next to me right now still works as a phone.

It soon won't be. 3G and 2G network are being depreciated quickly around the world


I apologize for being that guy, but they are being deprecated. To depreciate is to decrease in value.

but then, deprecation causes depreciation in this case, for extra fun.

Can I broadcast my own 3G cell inside my house with some magic radio device?

Not legally. Where I'm from they sold off the old 3G spectrum and frequencies, mostly (all?) to established telcos to use in 4G or 5G mobile services. They will not be happy if you start interfering with their customers there (especially not after the money they spent at the auction for those licenses).

There are some weird bits of the 900MHz band that cross into the fairly free-to-use ISM bands in some countries, and I recall a CCC talk where someone demonstrated a SDR setup doing mobile phone base station stuff by sneaking into what were ISM bands in Germany where he was that handsets would talk to because they were allocated as cellular phone spectrum in other parts of the world. Here in Australia we are limited and can't use the upper end of the 920MHz ISM band with LoRa devices, because Optus bought that spectrum for their phone network.

(Here in Aust4ralia we have other cellular spectrum and phone network problems, where a lot of older devices that support some 4 and/or 5G cannot reliably call 000 (our equivalent emergency number to the US 911), because the fall back to 3G when roaming onto other networks... A few people have died recently, and all the telcos are busy blocking a growing list of phones, mostly older Samsung ones if the noise in mainstream media here is accurate. I know my old but still otherwise functional Galaxy S6 Edge is not on the banned list.)


The last paragraph definitely sums up how much of a bureaucratic and dystopian joke Australia is. Should have kept 2G up!

Europe can use 433 and 866 MHZ for ISM.


Not sure about 3G, but here's an example of 2G: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMWvA4Ty1Wk

Edit: same as already posted hackaday, oop!


Yes, there was such a thing called Vodafone SureSignal and similar devices:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Vodafone-075375-Sure-Signal-V3/dp/B...


Should still be fine for at least a few years here.

Depends on the country and provider but is sooner than later in Europe and I hate it that 2G is going away since all my old devices are not going to work again…

https://onomondo.com/blog/2g-3g-sunset-2/


Here in Australia 3G is totally gone already. 2G went years ago.

That article is full of made up slop - at least in terms of Europe.

Most of the dates stated are just plain wrong.

The UK dates are completely wrong - by 5 years in most cases.

All of the UK's 2G networks are still running, and the last won't be switched off until at least 2030.


The article is from 2022 and is good enough summary. Specifics for sure can vary in between but that is why you are more than able to do an individual search.

In Europe we keep 2G as a failsafe, deprecating only 3G.

Not true, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2G#Phase-out

Many countries/carriers in europe have already shut down 2G, many will shut it down in 2027. A few will keep it a few years more.


A bit of a shame. I had a Nokia 6090 with 8 watt of transmit power on 900Mhz. Combined with a 33 centimeter antenna that phone had reception in nearly all of the European continent. And with a 70Ah 12v battery you had a battery life of weeks. Even with the phone consuming up to 25 watts during calls.

My fancy new 5G smartphone doesn’t work in rural parts of the country. We are going backwards.


It's a hot mess too. When you have an American carrier / phone number on an international plan and they shut down all radios in the case of an emergency in the EU, you still get 2G/3G service abroad while everyone's phones around you is dead.

What do you mean? They are shutting down the radio transceivers for 2G/3G, how would an American number/carrier get a signal in countries that have shut down their 2G/3G networks? Or are you talking about plans to do direct-to-cell satellite service, cause none of those are 2G/3G as far as I can tell?

The whole point is to free up spectrum, how would that work if that spectrum is still in use for the American carriers in countries that shut down the service for domestic use? Why would service be maintained for such a niche usecase?


nope, check the link I posted in another comment: https://onomondo.com/blog/2g-3g-sunset-2/#europe

please note that the list is not fully up to date, eg. in Germany Voda and Telekom have said that they will sunset 2G in summer 2028.



I think it is working as intended.

Register a corporation often meant it is linked to a real life, government issued ID.

If you do scam or fraud on that web site, they know where to find you.

... unless, of course, if the CA ain't doing the verification.....


work for me on firefox on mac

For me on Firefox for android even

> The true future of "safe" software is already here, JavaScript.

only in interpreter mode.


Many CA have in browser javascript-based private key generation.

(Of course the same page have GoogleAnalytics and facebook button -- otherwise it would be too secure.)


Haskell need a runtime environment for memory management.

Linux want all memory management explicit.


That time can be spent on solving rust type puzzles

The comment section say they were using second hand component. Basically salvage yard parts.

also, they were taking advantage of free sampling of JLCPCB in China. The main pcb is basically free

The traditional way is paper trails and/or WORM (write-once-read-many) devices, with local checksums.

You can have multiple replica without extra computation for hash and stuffs.


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