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A lot of folks use it to get started quickly and then realize the unnecessary abstractions are obfuscating the actual hard parts.


Love this.


Fun litmus test, if the person challenging this assertion happens to be a straight male: "how many guys have you slept with?"


I'd guess this depends on region/demographic, but at least in my circles on the west coast, "guys" is gendered when it's used to describe or identify people in the third person, but it's gender-neutral when used to address a group of people in the second person.

So "the guys" or "how many guys" always refers to men, but "you guys" carries no implication of gender at all. I often hear people address groups consisting entirely of women as "guys", and nobody bats an eye.


Yes agreed. In most regions/groups in America, "you guys" does not carry the same meaning as "a group of guys"


Also for reference, these are "compound nouns" - a single noun composed of multiple words. No one has these issues with "ice cream", for example, but "you guys" really is just another one of these.


I think it makes sense to say "you guys" is a compound noun, but the word "guys" can be used in this gender-neutral addressing-a-group sense outside of the phrase "you guys". For example: "Hey guys!", or "Guys, what should I eat for lunch?"


"Sexist" does feel like too strong a word. "Gendered" perhaps more appropriate.

"Guys" is certainly gendered, so I understand folks feeling like "you guys" is as well.


Three-way group chats have been really great for me (as a 45 year old male) for keeping connection with my guy friends. Have a dozen of them or so. Small enough to still feel intimate. Big enough that someone replies / keeps the conversation going.


Our tradition: fried chicken.

If turkey was good, we’d eat it more than once a year.

Fried chicken is delicious and you still get to do the whole over-involved preparation of poultry.


Turkey is good. I eat it throughout the year.


pixelmator's great. congrats!


My experiments with computer use clocked in at $15/hour


What a beautiful response


I've read all 20+ of the Jack Reacher books, some multiple times. Best bedtime reading I've found. Fun enough I actually want to go to bed. Shallow enough that if I miss a page or two because I'm drowsy, no big deal.


I've read all 20+ of the Jack Reacher books,

Same! I think they're great. But that's "great" when you appreciate them for what they are. I wouldn't compare, say, The Killing Floor to Nineteen Eighty Four or anything. But I'd say they're both great - in their respective ways.


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