I think you might find that labs like the one in Wuhan are or were being operated at arms length by US companies and individuals anyway. I doubt much will happen here, maybe some funding cuts

It would be helpful if someone would be willing to perform a packet capture while experiencing and testing this problem. I’d be more than happy to analyse further.

We should see the right number of valid ICMP packets put on the wire and whatever response we get back will be telling

Tell me what tcpdump one-liner magic you’d like and I’d be happy to provide a dump for you. I seem to be getting anywhere between 3% and 6% packet loss on my home network, pinging my server that is separated by about 6 feet of cat6 and a switch.

Rob clearly has an abundance of talent however it may never be realised if he continues on his current journey of pontification and naval gazing

Don’t worry he hasn’t gone too far he’s just in that studio apartment on the end of your street

Wow, I can’t believe the HN audience is so accepting of stretched layer 2 as a solution. It’s almost as though we’ve been invaded by middle management.

Stretched layer 2 is almost always a mistake.

This is an excellent write up, thank you

Isn’t it better to let people underestimate us? Especially any potential adversary.

Regardless, liminal warfare will continue to give rise to this kind of scenario so we should try not to outsmart ourselves in a desperate bid to be right

> Isn’t it better to let people underestimate us? Especially any potential adversary.

Depends on the domain. Underestimation could lead to perceptions of weakness and opportunity for attack. Even if you are prepared for attack, not getting attacked in the first place is better than getting attacked at all.

Same goes for positioning in negotiation.

The reason big companies need lots of people is because if they didn’t have lots of people they wouldn’t be a big tech company. Really, that’s about it

Thank you Bernard. That will be all