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Absolutely, think "lick" vs "leak". I think the author means Hungarian maybe uses very similar looking letters to denote this (ie "lik" and "lík").

In Hungarian also every vowel comes in pairs of short-long: a-á (what vs high), e-é (ever vs eight), "o-ó" (moss vs most), "u-ú" (put vs you), "ö-ő" (fur vs ... well long version has no English equivalent I think but German does: schön).


a-á and e-é are not short-long pairs. a is /ɒ/, á is /aː/, e is /ɛ/, é is /eː/.

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_phonology#Vowel_exam...


From your source (page up a bit):

"Hungarian has seven pairs of corresponding short and long vowels. Their phonetic values do not exactly match up with each other, so ⟨e⟩ represents /ɛ/ and ⟨é⟩ represents /eː/; likewise, ⟨a⟩ represents /ɒ/ while ⟨á⟩ represents /aː/.[14] For the other pairs, the short vowels are slightly lower and more central, and the long vowels more peripheral."

So yes, they apparently are "short-long pairs".


No, not in the sense we are talking about it.


Not in the sense _you_ are talking about perhaps?

Typically, when people talk about "long" and "short" vowels they are referring to a combination of duration and pronunciation (e.g. English "bat" vs. "bate"), and that appears to be the case here as well. If you are interpreting the terms differently, I'm not sure what sense you have in mind.


> Typically, when people talk about "long" and "short" vowels they are referring to a combination of duration and pronunciation (e.g. English "bat" vs. "bate"), and that appears to be the case here as well.

Finnish vowels and most Hungarian vowels come in short-long pairs that

  - only their lengths differ, their pronunciations do not (meaning: IPA denotes them with the same letter but with or without a colon)
  - their lengths are *phonemic*, that is they are *said to be* different phonemes, they are *perceived as* different phonemes, and there are example words that differ only at them
You can observe this property in the table I've linked for i, o, ö, u, ü [0]. You can find minimal pairs for them at [1]. (Note that [1] groups these vowel pairs as "Vowels with length difference: I – Í | O – Ó | Ö – Ő | U – Ú | Ü – Ű" which does not include A - Á and E - É.)

A-á and e-é are not such pairs. They differ in pronunciation (see the IPA in [0]), and their lengths, while are somewhat defined, never contrast (no minimal pairs for them). Also you can pronounce any of these four with arbitrary length, it will stay the same phoneme.

[0] : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_phonology#Vowel_exam...

[1] : https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Hungarian_minimal_pa...

edit: I find your previous quote 'misleading'. I would say 'wrong', but it avoids to say anything factual. At least in out of context--the rest of the wiki page clarifies everything.


So yeah, we are talking about different things.

Your position sounds cogent and may well be a more accurate description of Hungarian (e.g. that its long/short vowels are more like Latin than English). I don't know Hungarian, so I can't say.

The rest of this thread is consistent with people assuming the broader definition of long/short.


I can imagine that happening when the motivation is external (praise). When I write open-source it's because I have to write it out of myself.

Do I expect praise, kudos, fame, whatever? I do and that happens, I have been hired countless of times because of open-source. Even my friends (!) have been hired because of open-source stuff I wrote and they contributed to.

But the main motivation is internal - I just have to see it take shape. Like a writer who can't resist painting or a writer who can't stop writing.

Do I have regrets still? Yeah because I could have used the time for better things. But that can be said about any hobby.


Repo: https://github.com/1backend/1backend

After some 12+ years of collecting microservices platform ideas in my head and implementing them at various companies and open-source projects, I decided to create a system that contains all of them.

1Backend is the result. Mostly built it for myself so I have a foundation to build projects on but I'd love if others would also use it!


I think the idea is fairly cool, although it's hard to come up with a way to judge contributions. How would you solve the legal part? In the end a business entity would still need to own things.

Would you perhaps sync ownership from time to time from the DAO to the real world?


I considered using AI to evaluate more complex cases, beyond merely counting lines of code. However, the idea might be somewhat naive.


I think that makes sense, AI could be used to evaluate and score the importance of contributions imho. In fact this is probably a business idea in itself...


I'm working on a few closed source projects that are all built on https://github.com/1backend/1backend, my dream microservices platform I've had in mind for 12 years before starting to implement it.

On the frontend I'm rather happy with Angular but backend-wise I was never really happy. So it was time to build it. Been developing it for more than a year now.


If anyone is reading from YC, I'm happy to review their submissions, I was perhaps the first who raised concerns and was on top of the thread with my comment.

(See this post I made on LinkedIn about this: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/crufter_today-y-combinator-de...)


I haven't read the details or watched the video, but it does sound like you noticed something that should not have been there.

I noticed that your page says this:

> New: the thread "Tell HN: Y Combinator backing AI company to abuse factory workers" on Hacker News got removed from the front page despite having 242 points.

The thread fell in rank because it set off a software penalty called the flamewar detector. We haven't taken any moderator action or touched it in any way. Our usual practice is to downweight shallow outrage posts (because they're not what the site is for), but we haven't done so in this case, because we have a core rule of moderating less, not more, when YC or a YC startup is in a story. (https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...)

If you want to be fair, you could add that information. Otherwise, readers will assume you mean that we nefariously censor negative posts about YC, when the truth is the opposite.

Edit: after I posted this, I noticed that the thread said [flagged] at the top. That's because users flagged it—as they usually do with shallow outrage threads. However, I've turned the flags off in keeping with the rule I just mentioned.


> If you want to be fair, you could add that information. Otherwise, readers will assume you mean that we nefariously censor negative posts about YC, when the truth is the opposite.

I'll do that, sure! Dang, I have deep respect for both you and HN for many-many reasons (HN literally changed my life and made it 1000x). So don't take this as me having a grudge. I just like accountability.

> but it does sound like you noticed something that should not have been there.

I don't follow this, sorry.


Thanks! I appreciate the kind reply—a nice change from how these things usually go. And I'm grateful to hear that you feel that way about HN. (What you say about how it changed your life is true in my case too, which is one reason why I'm doing this job.)

> I don't follow this, sorry.

Oh, I just meant that it sounds like you spotted something (the video in this case, I assume) that should not have been on an official YC launch page. I was being careful with my wording because I haven't looked at any of the details and haven't myself seen the video—I'm only going by the reactions that people are having to it.


That post was pulled partly because of my comment. I commented this:

"While I see the economical usefullness, this sounds like the worst possible application of AI.

Using AI to surveil is building hell on earth. AI should be used to help people work less/easier, not whip them into working more."

Which ended up on the top of the thread. Was surprised to wake up this morning and see it gone.

LinkedIn post I made about this:

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/crufter_today-y-combinator-de...


Why is it miserable? I left in 2020. Life was pretty good there at the time, I just got bored of London. What changed?


I'm thinking about moving from Hungary (Eastern Europe). I used to live in London in my twenties but came home (what is home? I miss the UK) to settle down. But the leading right wing party is poisoning this country for Chinese money so I'm forced to move.

I think with all its problems US is still the best country in the world, but moving there is not an option for me. Even with a H-1B visa or whatever that's called, I don't like the idea of being tied that tightly to my employer. The US is still the source of innovation (imho for cultural reasons). I feel like my spirit is closest to the American one. Love for freedom, self-sufficiency etc.

Since the USA is not an option I'll settle for one of the European countries. Candidates are Spain, Switzerland or Austria.

Reasons are: Spain has cheap properties and amazing nature, Switzerland has an extremely high quality of life and wealth, and Austria is close to my home country.


Feel free to hit me up (email in profile) if you want to know about navigating life in Austria, I moved here from the UK 5 years ago. We also have amazing nature but the properties are not so cheap :)


Hey! Email is not public on HN, if you want to publish it you gotta include it in your about section :). Also how are you with German? I used to speak some but forgot most. Can you get by with English?


We are strongly considering Austria in September. How do I hit you up?


I feel personally attacked ; ) I'm also building a tool to run/build on top of LLMs (https://github.com/singulatron/superplatform) and I opted for containers too. TBF I'm mostly targeting backend developers (who am I kidding, I'm mostly building this for myself).

The desktop version has its own configuration management software to install docker or WSL and all the dependencies you talk about, so I feel your pain.

/self plug


And, while your project looks quite cool, it's way too much and complicated for someone just wanting to try out getting into playing around with LLM and the various text models you can get from sources like huggingface with being somewhat in charge of getting the tools and compiling them on their own.


Having looked at your project, what would you say is difference in ability or philosophy compared to Open Web UI or FlowiseAI? Or, is this "I want to build this because I want to?" To which there is nothing wrong with that.


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