Shocking, people that dedicate themselves to research don't end up very wealthy. Whoda thunkit.

Being an economist doesn’t mean you are in the business of accumulating huge amounts of money. It means you study economic systems.

Are all the AlphaGo engineers also top-level Go players?

Or doctors the healthiest, fittest, most disease-free individuals?

I don't know what job postings you are seeing but the vast majority of Data Scientist/ML Engineer postings at large tech companies that I've seen explicitly mention Statistics as a requisite skill.

Sure, and most of time they do not vet the candidate during the interview. Even if they do, they ask basic questions about normal distributions and other basic concepts.

Mass Migration blows up your entire scenario.

Given that historically it's taken decades to build new plants from scratch this doesn't look like it will be nearly in time to make an impact.

Historically in US and Europe yes, but China Japan and South Korea are way more efficient in deploying nuclear, and for good reason. [1]

[1] https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffmcmahon/2018/10/02/4-ways-t...

If it is classified and a cleared employee at Amazon/Apple/etc. blabbled there would be life altering consequences for them.

Then there will be? As someone apparently/allegedly blabbed to Bloomberg?

I say again to Bloomberg: picture (x-Ray) or it didn't happen.

"Solving Heroin Addiction is an Underappreciated Market Opportunity."

Even for the hyper-capitalists of HN this is beyond the pale

Hmm yeah hard winters or having your spouse deported. Hard choice.

I feel like the number of tech people who legitimately worry about their spouse being deported is extremely small. And it's only two years until the next election anyways.

It will be really interesting to see how the community reacts when they revoke H4-EADs. It is one thing that you did not had ability to work for years and then you did and suddenly you don't.

> worry about their spouse being deported

And then there are others who are hoping for it...

For high skilled people it can be I know a CTO who moved back to the uk from the valley mainly because his wife could not work - she was a senior nurse I recall.

I think that gives little reassurance.

Well your initial point was that people will put up with Canada's cold winters to avoid having their spouse deported. I don't think that is a realistic scenario (and if your spouse is an illegal immigrant, I seriously doubt Canada would let the immigrate).

It is sad that many people who are sympathizing with this legal immigration issue, fail to realize that it was not all hunky dory for high skilled legal immigrants (HSLI) before Trump started.

FWIW, HSLIs especially from India are suffering because of policies by Clinton/Bush/Obama administrations.

Trump administration just ensured that every rule is followed to the T.

This may sound sadistic, but I'm glad Trump administration is doing this, because immigrants and employers will start feeling the heat of these insane rules, and finally it may lead to a sensible legal immigration reform. Had it not been for Trump, you'd have more than 95% of those HSLI waiting for Green Cards not utter a thing against the rules from the previous administrations.

Getting deported is not the issue. Problem is that every single day you wake up to this uncertainty that you may get deported, but you are not sure. And being a legal immigrant who broke no rules, adds to that frustration, of being treated like an unwanted immigrant in a country that most people are blissfully unaware of.

> And it's only two years until the next election anyways.

At this point with 50% approval rating, I doubt you'll see an incumbent lose 2020

Not sure you are looking at the right source but have not seen an approval rating that high on any polls.

Yes it is a huge socio-economic issue but I was referring only to economic part of it. No one would ever want to be separated from their family.

When Salary is adjusted for CoL Austin is often at or near the top. When you factor in large stock grants in SV/Bay Area things do get murkier.

They sure have strong opinions about working on Government projects but none of them have any issues creating tech that intrusively monitors and manipulates people for the purposes of serving them advertisements. What heroes they are...

You can directly blame the people who developed this stuff, the programmers, most perfectly able to move jobs with no real loss in economic stability.

I think it's one of the most immoral and unethical jobs that could be taken today.

Which is most us don't care for their virtue signaling.

How is this any different than a job at Big Tech in SF or NYC?

Because there, you're _only_ competing with local SF/NYC applicants, within like 1h drive radius or whatever.

Everyone I know who lives in SF moved there when they got offered a job there.

SF and NYC attract the top talent from around the world.

Not all of it, just the top talent that doesn't mind the living conditions in SF and NYC

Exactly, not all talent is prepared to up and move country. Age and family all factor into it.