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People need to learn to actually read articles before writing comments. As the other commenter posted it’s literally answered in the first paragraph.


Socially, emotionally, physically for example are ways people can be intelligent that is ignored in regular schooling.

Intelligence is largely related to STEM and memory in most instances. But there are a vast number of other ways to be intelligent. Perhaps you excel at emotionally connecting with people, maybe you're really good at cooking or tooling approaches. All of these are ignored in school.

School is nothing more then a checkbox along your path, you need to be able to read, write, do math, etc. But we ignore a large amount of our populace who may excel at grunt work, or maybe they are really good at leadership.

Just because you don't know y=mx+b or struggle at reasoning/logistical challenges does not mean you are not valuable to society. Maybe your 300lbs of rock solid muscle and in a past live would have been a top tier hunter. We do appreciate some amount of sports, but even that stops unless you're in the top 1-2% of the country.


This is off base. Socially intelligent people occupy all of the best paid and most powerful positions in society. Social manipulation is the most valued kind of intelligence in America, far more than academic intelligence.


Social intelligence is how you capture all of the added value of a trade, leaving none for the other guy. But you have to generate value in the first place, otherwise you can use social intelligence only for theft.


Exactly, it's useful for theft. Taking the value other people produce is the whole benefit of social intelligence. If you can convince someone that a scam is a good deal, you don't need to create any value at all. This is the origin of, among others, the political class.


>Taking the value other people produce is the whole benefit of social intelligence.

This is myopic almost to the point of satire. You really can't think of a single other benefit of social intelligence?


Of course it has other benefits. The context of the conversation was in terms of advancement in society,


The question was not about if being manipulative socially later in life is not a benefit. Of course it is a benefit.

But you get graded based on your ability to read, write, do math, memorize data points. Not on your ability to lie to your teacher in a believable manner.

You may excel later in life, but it's not like you can enter Yale because you can manipulate people.

You also need a certain level of other intelligence to properly manipulate people, or at least a certain level of self narcissism.

I mean you kind of proved my point, perhaps we should be teaching/discussing social skills.


General intelligence and social intelligence are correlated, which makes discussion difficult. Yale's a good example, though. Applicants need a base level of academic achievement to get in, but it's not actually that high. They didn't even require test scores for the last few years. If that were the main criterion, the whole school would be East Asian. Instead, what matters is marketing yourself. Knowing people, or building a narrative the admissions committee is looking for. Social intelligence.

I completely agree that social skills should be emphasized in school-not to reward the people who are already adept, but to impress on the others that they're the primary determinant of success.


> Social manipulation is the most valued kind of intelligence in America

It's incorrect to think that's limited to America. Humans are mostly powerless against the charm of narcissists and other sociopaths.

You see it over and over throughout human history all over the world.


That's hugely incorrect, most of Asian, Europe have whatsapp numbers listed, not phone numbers.


That doesn’t really align with my experience in Europe or Japan - do you have a particular country in mind?


that's 100% wrong, i live in europe in a whatsapp country and no listed phone number EVER has an associated whatsapp account

so don't downvote me if you're in india and certain countries in sa asia where that is the case but that's not the whole world outside the us


I don't think I'd call Caddy "widely used" it is used, but nowhere near nginx, apache, haproxy, squid, etc.


Make sense. Nowadays, for a new project, I would like to use Caddy where I would otherwise use Apache or nginx, but I would be even more inclined to use a cloud provider's load balancer.


Does open-source mean it's free? I don't think that is what it means, it just means the source is open, viewable, and you are free to use it as per the licensing.


If it's open source, people are free to redistribute it. Copies of open source software can be sold for money, but open source licenses allow redistributing the software for free. In practise, that means most people won't buy the open source software from a seller, they will choose instead to get a copy from someone who is willing to redistribute it free of charge.


Yes, it actually means that.

https://opensource.org/osd


No it doesn't. You are allowed to require payment before you provide a copy of open source software.


> it just means the source is open, viewable

That's called source-available, unless "use it as per the licensing" includes further freedoms


Dude has been department head for a day? Do we have such little faith that we judge a person before a single stroke of the pen? While historical actions do speak loud, having a bad past does not mean you are a bad person. Nor does it mean your policies will reflect your personal beliefs. There have been tons of individuals who set aside their beliefs and done a fantastic job.


We're supposed to withhold judgment on somebody who has directly led to the deaths of several dozen children? Are you really implying there is no one who is better qualified to lead HHS?


Does it sound like I am suggesting that? That's certainly not my question. I don't think RFK should be anywhere near anything. But he is. So the only option is to accept that, and hold off judging someone until bad policies are released.

It's entirely possible RFK feels extreme regret for such incident and wishes to help prevent it from happening again. It's also entirely possible RFK will do a decent job, just like it's possible he will be replaced in 6 months.

There is some validity in his comments, US is not healthy, there is extreme dietary issues, lack of exercise and eating terribly is rampant. But nobody complained about any other department head for not trying to solve that issue. But his past is very loudly negative.


We can always update our priors if we're proven wrong about these people. What's wrong with having expectations?

Somebody must have had an expectation, otherwise how were they selected? Why do we keep hearing over and over that they need forgiveness?


Let’s hold off on judging the bull we just released in the china shop unitl he has time to wander around in there for a while.


That's an interesting analogy. If I recall correctly, Mythbusters put a bull in a china shop and found that the bull avoided the shelves and didn't break anything.


But this is an RFK analogy, so its more likely he'd decapitate the bull with a chainsaw then dump its body in central park.


Just think about this statement for a second.

If you know someone has done terrible things, why would they change once they acquire more power?

Having a bad past stops you from owning weapons, from obtaining security clearance. Why do you think this is the case?


You're correct that I don't expect RFK's policies to necessarily follow his personal beliefs. He's previously mentioned being pro-choice, and this admin is against that, so he's already changed his tune there.

But no, I don't expect him to change that much. Just last night he was on Fox saying how we don't have good data on the COVID vaccines.


RFK Jr. has a long track record of spreading pseudoscience, conspiracy theories, and misinformation—issues that go beyond personal beliefs and directly impact decision-making. Trusting him to govern rationally ignores the fact that his entire brand is built on anti-vaccine rhetoric and a general rejection of scientific consensus. Leaders who have successfully set aside personal beliefs to govern effectively typically have a history of pragmatism, not one of doubling down on disinformation. If someone has spent years pushing harmful falsehoods, there's little reason to believe they'll suddenly embrace reality when in power.


"Do we have such little faith that we judge a person before a single stroke of the pen?"

Yes.

It's not like he hasn't got a massive body of public statements to read. I mean, I understand that people in gov think we are all dumb enough that we think he's "pro-vaccine" no, somehow despite his toddler merch.

I mean, sometimes I think I am dumb too, especially when I respond to folks on this site. But yeah, most folks here aren't so dumb they can't tell what RFK will probably do based on his long public record of saying dumb stuff.


statcounter just uses data from website traffic, it's nothing more then Google Analytics

So the 14% increase is probably a single or few site(s) getting a insane amount of traffic.


To be honest, sales people are sales people. Their job is to sell you on packages, and they will generally do anything to get you to upgrade.

It's not like they threatened to remove you from their service. They asked you and gave you a "canned" reason.

If you don't mind me asking you had a $200 a month plan, and changed to another provider. Did the plan price go up or down?


If CF is calling you like this then I’m not sure how you’re interpreting this as a donation call. They’re basically saying you’re about to be fired as a customer.

Except now there isn’t a clear formalization on how much you were expecting to pay or how much runway or patience CF has left for you.


> If CF is calling you like this then I’m not sure how you’re interpreting this as a donation call. They’re basically saying you’re about to be fired as a customer.

I've had a call from Cloudflare at my previous job, and it wasn't a "you're about to be fired" it was an attempted upsell.


Sales people work within the policies & frameworks set by a sales organizations whose goals and strategies are set by said organizations leadership team.

This isn't a random sales person gone rouge—its a matter of how Cloudflare chooses to do business with and treat their customers.

The problem with this approach for customers is that it makes there costs entirely unpredictable. What's the stop them from increasing prices from $2,000 on the enterprise plan to $20,000 on the enterprise plus plan?


Very true. I think it was Snowflake we worked with recently where the sales rep said they don't get commission (I assume they have other incentives).

Aggressive commission structures, sales targets, and little oversights have visible impacts on how the sales team operate.

Compare to cloud providers like AWS where you certainly get "reminded" constantly about all the integrated services and features but much less so harassed and threatened into closing deals.


If you're not big enough to get an actual contract signed by your legal teams then nothing. That's just how it is, not unique to CF.


Sure but there's a huge difference between companies that load the call with sales people and sell to execs vs bringing solutions architects and sales/customer engineers on the call and actually explaining the product and its benefits and coming up with a customer tailored solution.

We had a pretty positive experience with a Cloudflare contract last year but it sounds like Cloudflare is more the former than the latter.


> It's not like they threatened to remove you from their service

They routinely do exactly this


And it's not only threats, they actually enforce them. Here is an example, but there are many more: https://robindev.substack.com/p/cloudflare-took-down-our-web...


This org was getting Cloudflare owned IPs blocked left & right due to the gambling content.

The fees are for sure ridiculous but i don't think Cloudflare was wholly unreasonable to request that the customer bring their own IP.


Is it written anywhere in their ToS that “gambling content” requires you to pay 120k$ or get booted out? If not, then it's not reasonable at all to give them a 24-hour notice and it definitely sounds like extortion.

I don't buy the “was getting Cloudflare owned IPs blocked left & right” argument.

Remember we are talking about a platform that still protects 4chan despite the internet raids, violence threats, celebrity hacking + photos leak, the buffalo shooting, etc:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4chan#Controversies_and_harass...


Surely there are abuse and fair use provisions in their ToS/contract for shared resources like IPs. If they're in the xx percentile of customers causing IP blocks they'd enforce.


Industry practice is to just move all the risky customers in an IP range dedicated to them


Yes, Cloudflare does that but they don't hand out blocks of dedicated IPs to low paying customers. IIRC you need to be on a contract instead of a monthly plan which is typically a big price increase.


I wait one version, I’ll upgrade to 8.3 now and 8.4 when 8.5 is out.


Not sure where you got that from. It’s equally if not faster then python, faster then Java, slower then compiled language, faster then ruby. Loses to NodeJS most of the time.

But who cares, we are literally talking millisecond differences between them all. Throw a reverse proxy, DB into the mix and a few packages and they are all slow.


And if we actually want to talk speed, PHP with something like Swoole or ReactPHP is many times even faster[0] than the already fast regular PHP.

[0]: https://medium.com/@dimdev/9-php-runtimes-performance-benchm...


> faster then Java

You sure about that? Not what I would have expected. Source?


My point was less about the leaderboards and more about it being pointless comparison. But I was looking at https://web-frameworks-benchmark.netlify.app/result?l=java,p... though I don't really know what people consider "best benchmark" for raw vs raw. Once you start throwing in apache/nginx/proxies/what ever it really starts to balance itself.



Definitely not faster than Java if we're talking single thread performance.


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