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This is just another shakedown like with Tylenol etc, knock the product, lower the stock price and have a competitor hostile takeover, or get kickbacks

This is a hypothesis, and a viable one.

But I caution you against drawing conclusions from your hypothesis and calling it a day, instead of taking in the available data and using it to broaden your understanding of what's actually happening.

This could be many things: a shakedown, Trump's pettiness, marketing kayfabe, an actual government reaction to a very weaponizable technology, and so on.

But if you call it "just another shakedown" and go about your day, then you're doing yourself a disservice, because the story is still unfolding and we don't have all the facts.

You don't actually have the full story, so don't delude yourself into think you do.


Its been 10 years of historical abuse. You're a battered spouse in a bad relationship with the most audacious narcissist that has ever lived.

I'm not American, and I definitely don't support Trump.

Care to spin the outrage wheel again and lob another unfounded insult at me?

At any rate, feel free to indulge in (plausible) conspiracy theories until further details of the story have emerged.


Real question; what are we supposed to do about that information delay when it directly enables corruption and usury? This is an ongoing issue with historical precedent; the repeal of glass-steagall, MKULTRA and COINTELPRO, Iran-contra, watergate, the list is indefinably long.

All of these all surfed in on that very temporal ambiguity, and the fact that we have zero recourse in a plurality of cases - a situation that has eroded over time, not gotten better, and could feasibly be credited with a large part of the palpable social decay that real people are suffering from every day right now.

So what do we do about it? "Indulging in plausible conspiracy theories" could also be read here as "trying to get out ahead of this imminent yet undclear threat"


These DCs won't be built and will drag the company under

A LOT of this is from the chinese triad in the Golden Triangle in Cambodia who use kidnapped people and abuse them

They did steal all of our written knowledge

Just like Hawaii, Islands require massive support and material inputs from the mainland.

The moon is like Napoleon's exile to Saint Helena island, very remote hard to get to.

Mars is like the antarctic, nearly all early explorers died and it take an international effort to stay down there.


It's not glamorous but I want to see SpaceX do a 6 month antarctic mission to prove they're capable of supporting life on Mars. No assistance from any existing antarctic base, fully self contained.

Rather than a one off mission, why isn't NASA operating a permanent base there along those lines? Locate it reasonably close to mcmurdo so they can get help in an emergency. I realize we have the ISS but there's probably still a lot to be learned about keeping a fully self contained system running in a hostile environment.

Any permanent lunar outpost (with maybe the exception of some of the coastal ones) needs to be fully self sufficient during the winter, that is nothing new.

No one is going to go rescue you tracking or flying thousands of kilometers in total darkness, snow storms and ~-80C temperatures.


And they scrapped the lunar gateway to piece out the ion thrusters to send to saturn for some reason

China launched a direct competitor on June 2nd

"China launches debut mission of Falcon 9-like rocket with no advance notice" https://www.space.com/space-exploration/launches-spacecraft/...

Spacex is going to get rekt, China has all the materials and workforce


This comment is very clearly an exaggeration even if there is a grain of truth to it. You should consider addressing the fact that there can be multiple "leaders" at any given time, and geopolitical boundaries can shape those leaders.

Perhaps at least wait until Long March proves to be recyclable/reuseable before you call it a direct competitor.

Well, SpaceX is supposed to be more about AI than low cost orbital launches. At least that’s what their roadshow is claiming.

But either way, yeah, I’m not willing to bet much money on USD4.3T unless we can get some serious financial engineering, (read “circular deals”), going.


We've seen through Tesla that software, government regulation, and to a smaller degree build quality are the only moats against China that still currently hold.

Tesla build quality? Early Chinese EV's were a joke, but Tesla's aren't exactly built reliably either

Once you learn how to spot their misaligned panels it becomes impossible not to


I've owned older USA made cars so a little panel alignment doesn't bug me. I like the lack of beer bottles stashed in the doors, missing screws, welds from the obviously inebriated, etc.

> Spacex is going to get rekt, China has all the materials and workforce

According to their brief, most of the revenue is going to come from AI!

The rockets are apparently just "minor" now.


That must be a mistake, revenue isn't the word for the money you're going to throw in the furnace.

Who's going to buy launch services from CASC besides Chinese companies? Serious question, I don't have an answer in mind.

It's possible SpaceX will get "rekt", but the US has decades of experience and manufacturing processes set up for aerospace, as well as established customers. As long as SpaceX doesn't become heavily unionized I suspect they'll be able to compete strongly with anything China develops.

China has multiple reusable rocket programs, the reuse will become key to driving down costs.

yeah, and it will slice $T off of spacex easily

the only solution is to upgrade the phone system to require ID, but that would cost billions to AT&T, so that ain't gonna happen

They don't have that right, that's why Ben Franklin set up the USPS

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