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It doesn't feel the same playing GTA4 without the music.

Also very cool.

"exe.dev is a subscription service that gives you virtual machines, with persistent disks, quickly and without fuss."

scroll down and hit the "about" link. I do agree though the landing page could be more resourceful.

I'm not going to SSH to a random server.


That's my point, the home/landing page tells you nothing other than "try to ssh into this van"

All a malicious website has to do to be convincing is to have a more conventional landing page then?

The disk and sudo mentioned are good enough clues, then you have the about.


Where did I say that, that wasn't a topic I just commented on the *entirety* of the content on the landing page.

> The disk and sudo mentioned are good enough clues

I mean, you do you and let's agree to disagree about a good landing page UX.


tbh maybe this service doesn't want you as a customer if you can't figure this out. it seems like you'd be an above-average support burden

Are you honestly suggesting that startups should be picky about taking on customers?

That’s probably the oddest thing to read on a tech VC forum.

The lading page was garbage. It’s forgivable because designing goods landing pages is hard. But inventing wacky ideas about why a bad landing page might have some hidden genius, isnt constructive feedback


Why are you giving in to such a troll/AI/low effort comment. If the page was some genius implication and I were too stupid to get it then his comment had a good point. The page has a random ssh command and this dude thinks it's genius.

You made me lol

> I'm not going to SSH to a random server.

Opening a random website likely exposes you to more risk.


Likely? Definitely.

Jump ship. You'll forever be bargaining for the pay rise and if you do get it and don't deliver for whatever reason you'll end up shooting yourself in the foot. As the recent justification was for more pay.

Probably goes with this six monitor setup.

https://assets.getkino.com/photos/EFTA00000016-0


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Was working three days ago.

I got the 5950x at launch for stupid money. I have no reason to part from it.

IT Architect.

Currently rebuilding a VFX studio replacing Windows with Linux with a bespoke PXE system and then implementing a Data Vault to secure IP we receive from movie studios.


Carmageddon is another old classic of mine, https://dos.zone/carmageddon

I used to watch my older brother play this when I was younger and he always hid the CD.


Oh damn, my cousin had carmageddon! We'd stay up all night long playing it when I visited him!

Now I gotta find that other game he had, but I don't remember what it was called. It was kinda like reverse GTA: you played as a female cop and you had to stop the criminals. Iirc there were corrupt cops later on in the game.


Would that be Urban Chaos?

Yes! That's the one! Thanks! Omg, I need to play that game now!

Metaphorically speaking, Tiktok is heroin.

>Tiktok does not give you a 5 year life expectancy

12 year old life expectancy then?

> The lawsuit, filed in the US claims that Isaac Kenevan, 13, Archie Battersbee, 12, Julian "Jools" Sweeney, 14, and Maia Walsh, 13, died while attempting the so-called "blackout challenge". Four children died because of, compared to one, who injects?

Heroin invokes addiction, TikTok does that. Heroin can cause physical dependency, TikTok brews this. Heroin is highly addictive, isn't TikTok to the young viewer?

I still hold my point that TikTok can be distilled and viewed as a form of Digital Heroin. Evidence shows.

How else do you describe it's nature?


Metaphorically everything can be anything

TikTok is in no way like heroin, stop using that false analogy


> TikTok is in no way like heroin, stop using that false analogy

How is it not a form of digital heroin when the effects are digital?

Heroin destroys your mind, And one could argue without moderation any other thing can do too.


If your own child had a choice between using tiktok and using heroin, and they had to choose one, which choice would you prefer them to make?

Depends, how rich are they in this hypothetical scenario?It's being poor that's the problem, and we know that's true because of the many rock stars who've lived with a heroin addiction for many many years.

If it's the first thing you think about when you wake up, and it kills you to sleep at night, and you think about it all day, sure, one's a highly addictive habit that destroys lives, and the other is heroin. Which is also a highly addictive habit that destroys lives. Funnily enough, one destroys lives because it's legal, and the other destroys lives because it's illegal. But if you're taking your phone to bed with you at night, and it's the first thing you check in the morning, before you even have a thought to yourself, okay, you're not injecting it with a needle under a freeway underpass but after you get fired for watching TikTok on the clock and can't pay your rent, is you're landlord gonna care when you don't pay rent whether you got fired for drugs or a smartphone addiction?


Two things can be bad. Rationalizing one due to being less lethal is an ignorant argument.

> How is it not a form of digital heroin

Because "digital heroin" is a nonsense phrase used as a thought-terminating cliché.

> when the side-effects are the same of?

Assuming that this is intended to be something like "when the side effects are the same as those of heroin?" then the premise is false; the effects (side or otherwise) of TikTok are not meaningfully similar to those of heroin.


bruh are we living in different realities?

some people feel like they are addicted to short form content but it’s really nothing like a drug addiction much less an addiction to something as devastating as heroin


TikTok (along with the other platforms) is more like cigarettes, or sugar.

It's highly addictive. The negative effects are somewhat diffuse and may take a while to really impact your life, but they're very real.

And, rather importantly, it's legal and widely available, and the industry behind them is suppressing evidence of their harms and making tons of money off of addiction.


I guess so. 36 and having seen the internet from IRC to how it is now arguing over some internet forum because views are different. How old are you?

TikTok causes chemical release in the brain and which can cause other self psychological damage. Heroin causes chemical release in the brain in the brain, and can cause other self psychological damage.

Both are addictions, both are hard to fight. Some find it easier some find it hard.

The effects of one are more devastating sure, Alcohol is more damaging than Caffeine; I'm not ruling that out.

However the effects of Heroin which comes with addiction and the cravings are some-what mimicked within the realms of TikTok.

To op below: I'm now rate limited, so I can't reply directly.

A drug, a real life substance that is designed to alter human chemistry. Cannabis, Caffine, MDMA, DMT all alter your brain chemistry organically.

You cannot compare one or to something that is man-made digital. You can however compare the effects of a substance that is organically designed to that of something is digital. The relation of effects of TikTok to Heroin are very similar.

Social media is being designed as a digital service to alter human chemistry. It works, why do you think the world is in utter shit? Why do you think social enterprises pay big bucks to exploit the human psyche by hiring sociologists/psychologists?

The TikTok icon on mobile devices is strategically designed to manipulate and trigger a response.

Facebook is a grand example with the A/B emotional testing they did with Cambridge Analytica which that is that is far worse then heroin IMO. At least with Heroin you need to inject.


> TikTok causes chemical release in the brain and can cause other self psychological damage.

You're literally describing any activity that someone enjoys generating natural dopamine, and then comparing it to a drug that crosses your blood-brain barrier and mimicks your brain's chemistry to give you a super-charged chemical version of that. The difference in dopamine levels is orders of magnitude. Your brain re-wires itself to handle the level of dopamine produced and you start only feeling normal if you're constantly using the drug. I would be surprised if Tiktok generated even 1/10th the dopamine level of using methamphetamine. It all honestly sounds quite fun, but my awareness of the consequences will prevent me from ever trying them.

Eating a good meal, having sex, finishing writing your first novel, winning a race, doing breath work, doing yoga, rock climbing, and an unlimited supply of examples generate dopamine in our brains the same way that Tiktok does. They can all ruin your life just as much, if you allow them to.

A much better comparison would be to describe Tiktok as a "digital slot machine", and indeed slot machine mechanics have been heavily studied by social media platforms to make usage more habitual. Nir Eyal's Hooked was an interesting and informative read on this topic. If he describes social media as heroin in the book I'll happily take the self-own.


I think age is a lame argument here but fwiw i also grew up on IRC and 90s internet - I just have a less rosy view of that time.

> TikTok causes chemical release in the brain

Basically everything causes a chemical release in the brain. For example HN does as well, would you compare posting on HN to heroin?

> both are hard to fight

I know and knew people both addicted to heroin and to TikTok. Let me assure you that ditching a short-form content addiction is VASTLY more easy than ditching heroin.

> the effects of Heroin which comes with addiction and the cravings are some-what mimicked within the realms of TikTok

This is true for everything that humans enjoy. Next you gonna say that talking a walk in nature or working out is like heroin because I enjoy it and I’m addicted to it (if I don’t do it every day I feel bad and I have a compulsion to do it every day)

> why do you think the world is in utter shit

I disagree with that assessment, the “world” as a whole is actually much better than it used to be 30 years ago. Of course that might not be the case for you individually but then this thread is more about your feelings than an objective observation of the world.

> At least with Heroin you need to inject.

Most heroin users don’t inject which ones again shows you don’t know anything about it outside of tropes and cliches.

“At least with TikTok you need a smartphone and internet and swipe to unlock” - see how dumb that makes me sound?

Don’t get me wrong I dislike the tech hegemony and social media as much as you - I just think your way of arguing damages your position more than it helps it.


part of the definition of addiction is that it has a negative impact on your life, so your nature walks and exercise arent comparable without describing that harm

I state my age so at least I can represent myself as someone with experience in this world and who has seen the internet deteriorate from something fundamental awesome to a wash-rag floating in a swamp.

I see it as Digital Heroin. If others, you don't, fine.

Social Media is addicting. I use none and explaining it as " digital heroin" may be an extreme way to present the thought but at least it's bluntly represents the curse of it. Finally, it's not the teenagers at fault. It's the governments in the first place for allowing this. I saw it on the wall when Facebook came to be back in 2007.


TikTok is a Skinner Box.

YouTube is the dominant player in Western Fronts. TikTok is the dominant in Asian fronts.

TikTok is Chinese Youtube & YouTube is Western TikTok

Both are cancer.


Youtube Shorts, maybe, but Youtube is obviously broader than TikTok, and it is not just a dopamine machine, unlike TikTok. Can you find research seminars on TikTok?

TikTok has longer content, some of it quite academic, but it's all vertical. I don't know about any one else's TikTok, but mine has a dedicated STEM feed if I scroll all the way to the left at the top. The problem is their vaunted algorithm will prioritize whatever content you happen to come across and then linger on, which tends to end up not prioritizing eg math content until you reset your algorithm and search for content you want the fresh algorithm to prioritize.

>it is not just a dopamine machine, unlike TikTok. Can you find research seminars on TikTok?

Sure, you can find white paper previews on Tiktok.


I can't because they gate the video search. Joke's on them, I ain't signing up.

> Youtube is obviously broader than TikTok

Well yeah, it's existed longer. You can't compare one service like YouTube, a streaming platform for video vs TikTok which is a viral social platform.

> Can you find research seminars on TikTok? TikTok isn't nor the platform for such. This link has results.

https://www.tiktok.com/tag/researchseminar


Did you check that link before you posted it?

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