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I doubt you'd have much of an issue rejoining the group.


Yeah should've mentioned that, super easy to rejoin, just trying to prevent bloat


The title is clickbait, in the article it says they can verify online. The change is to stop verification over the phone.


You might want to read past the first paragraph before incorrectly claiming it’s clickbait. The fourth paragraph covers why online verification excludes a lot of people - nearly half of older Americans - and the fifth covers the building closures which remove the option many people use to fill that gap.

One thing in particular to consider is how painful MFA is for many people, especially those with marginal connectivity or disabilities, and how commonly older people are phished or have malware on their generally older, often unpatched devices. If you haven’t supported a population like this, it’s way more of a barrier than you might think.


MFA is often painful for me, and I've been a dev since we were called "programmers".


Definitely. I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve seen some horrid login flow and cringed to think about what it’s like for people who have visual or cognitive impairments, use a janky old phone they got on one of those lifeline plans, etc. If I’m remembering right, one test with SMS codes with a short expiration (10-15 minutes) had lose to half of older users struggling with delays and the challenge of copy-pasting or remembering only the code within that time limit.

We have really lost our way as a field for some basic user experiences and that really shouldn’t be acceptable for government services or companies people need to deal with like utilities, banks, etc.


It's a terrible policy. I know someone who is 74 and never owned a computer. They own a smartphone but only know how to use the phone app and really don't understand texting. I was shocked when I learned this and I imagine there are many people like him.


A good portion of people in such situations will have children or loved ones who will walk them through online portion.


A lot of older individuals still don’t use the internet in any capacity, not even through a smartphone. For those people, effectively the only option is to visit an office.


The resend api has around 10 endpoints.


> but noone is framing that situation as the problem.

I think yimbys are framing that situation as THE problem.


I meant here, though I think there is also tendency in general

As a side note I think the state of current discourse has shown that anything other than concrete language presents too much opportunity to talk past each other. So I don't think talking about yimbys is specific enough (and its too tempting to strawman). Same for magas and libs, they are broad labels for a broad spectrum of people


So, what do we talk about then? Humans are pretty bad at multitasking so when speaking generally to a public you want to focus on one issue at a time.


I'm saying be more specific not less


It looks like the moral high just came more in demand.


There are pros and cons of cryptocurrencies as money, just like gold, which cause people to speculate on the price.


What are the pros of the trump coin or the melania coin?


A brainwashed group of drones that are willling to pay money for it.

But I'm convinced most people that buy memecoins like that are thinking that there's other suckers that will buy it and make the price go up.


There are other banking models that are needed. Look into Custodia Bank’s model (SPDI). Full reserve system meant to backstop high risk (but legal) businesses. They went through a multi-year lawsuit around the start of 2020 with the fed who didn’t want them to exist, ultimately lost.


Custodia Bank marks the second enterprise in this thread that attempted to gain direct access to the Fed, bypassing intermediate banks, but was rebuffed. The other was Reserve Trust. Is it possible to obtain and make use of a Fed “Master account”?


My thought as well.

ps When is your SC podcast coming back?


You probably mass apply to jobs you aren’t remotely qualified for.


If it guaranteed that you got a phone screen, I imagine a lot of SWEs would take that deal.


But then it means the only people who apply will be the sort of people who tend not to even get phone screens… is that really who you want to be spending your time interviewing?


Given how poor an experience most phone screens are… not going to pay for that, ever.


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