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I wonder how many others instantly recalled the ICQ notification sound on reading the headline.


I can’t pretend to know the man’s mind but I always got the vibe he didn’t really feel at home in the cultural landscape of the late 60s and onwards

Personally I think his contributions would be welcome in any era, and either way “this is the year that was” is a certified banger


> I'm not buying that people here are "fine" with this. This is one of those things people might be fine with, until they find themselves in that exact spot.

I'm gonna suggest that people who are blase about this issue are comfortable in the knowledge that it will never affect them. HN contributors might have 99+ problems, but being lusted over by the internet at large isn't one of them.


> I cannot recommend X too highly

This isn't a veiled statement. It's outright dunking on the applicant.


It can be interpreted both ways: "I cannot recommend X too highly (because they suck)" vs "I cannot recommend X too highly (because whatever praise I give will be inadequate)"


If praise is the intent, it would be phrased as "... cannot recommend X highly enough"


I disagree.


Not every opinion is equally valid


My take away from this is that any positive thing written in a letter of recommendation can be read as sarcasm by an English speaker.

I think there's some deeper issue with the language/culture here.


Every language has turns of phrase that are not necessarily intuitive to non-native speakers.


1. Audit / evaluation / quality assurance teams exist across multiple verticals from multinationals to government, and cannot reliably function when overly subservient to the production or “value creating” side

2. Boeing is a good and timely example of the consequences of said internal checks and balances collapsing under “value creation” pressure. That was a catastrophic failure which still can’t reasonably be compared to the downside of misaligned AI.


I agree with you on both points, but they have QA which is 1. The long-term risk team was more of a research/futurology/navel-gazing entity rather than a qa/audit function. I would say if you have any possible safety/alignment test that you can feasibly run it should be part of the CI/CD pipline and be run during training also. That's not what that group was doing.


That’s quite the narrow goalpost you’ve set up. What happens if a problem can’t be expressed as a Jenkins pipeline operation?


At my current company, management is an entry level position that recruits fresh grads. It’s essentially secretarial work under a different name.

So certainly in our case there’s no justification for a manager out earning any individual contributors (but they still do, because manager).


>managers should get paid more than senior devs. Why?

Bureaucracy rules.

If almost nobody is going to be getting anywhere anyway, why not?

In a very high technology field, regardless of whether it has anything to do with computers or not, sometimes what is needed is a team of individual high-performers.

Where each member could have the same high degree of expertise in the same relevant area, or at the other end of the spectrum, unique expertise in the variety of complementary domains the project requires.

Fundamentally any one of these productive individuals could do an outstanding job (of some kind) on their own, since that's the entrance criterion.

It's not supposed to go downhill just because you have a project that needs more engineers than one.

Any one of these operators who are not already a "rock star" is just because they do not have a manager promoting them & their talents properly.

The bandleader's got to be in the band with enough talent to be respected by all the band members, and performing right there beside them when it counts most. Especially if they're all rock stars, somebody has to herd cats.

The manager needs open-ended compensation with no upside limitation, other than it can not exceed the income of a single band member, completely dependent on how well the manager promotes those under his wing and how lucrative the gigs are he gets for the band.

Otherwise no rock stars for you.

You know, how somebody really can be 10X at any time, but only if the situation is right in many ways beyond that one individual?

A good manager can bring more than that multiple to the bottom line if they concentrate on promoting & increasing the actual performers' earnings first, rather than themselves.


You might have responded to the wrong comment.


> What do I care what others do?

This is libertarian virtue signalling that simply does not stand up to reality.


Egypt is categorically not closing their border to Palestinians out of fear of an Israeli invasion.


Egypt currently definitely is, other than in very individual cases.

From Google: ================= Egypt, however, has warned against an influx of refugees. It facilitates humanitarian aid into Gaza, but has said a mass exodus of Palestinians out of Gaza into Egypt is a red line, saying it fears Israel might never let the Palestinians go back. =====================

And Egypts real fear is that the Palestinians in Egypt will try to take back Palestine. Which wouldn't be very good for Egypt and engage them in a war with Israel.


Your own quote directly contradicts your assertion.


Apologies, which part of the quote is a contradiction? I'm not seeing it.


If it’s a well known case feel free to share it, otherwise you’re just editorialising an unverifiable anecdote.


Sadly, as I have outlined in my reply to the other question (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39926847) I am afraid of doxxing myself if I say more about this.

But, without me being a legal expert in any way, shape or form, my feeling is it is relatively similar to the "Fjordteam" case from Sandefjord a few years ago:

Different owners, different jobs, but operated by volunteers who looked for a nore efficient (and healthier :-) way to finance their activities instead of the traditional Norwegian "cake raffle" ("kakelotteri")


The case involving a large and well known religious organisation that “employed” an army of unpaid volunteers? Can’t see how that relates to the broad description you provided earlier.


It was a cooperative.

Used for fundraising.

Everything legal. As proven by taking it all the way up to the department.


> Everything legal

First of all, this unironically reminds me of Borat.

More importantly, you keep citing legality in this thread as if that should basically end the discussion. Quite frankly that strikes me as a position of convenience, because clearly HN is not a court of law and the scope is not restricted to whatever happens to be legal in any given jurisdiction.

Do you for instance support all legal acts in your country? Going out on a limb I suspect you find at least a few morally dubious or worse.

Just some examples off the top of my head : IVF for single women? State support for all mosques? Fosen windfarms and a broad co-signing of feel-good UN resolutions? Preferential hiring based on either gender or ethnicity? Slap on the wrist punishments for basically all offenses? Enshrined trans rights? Teachers being at the total (legal) mercy of abusive students?

I dunno man, almost like “it’s legal!” is not the QED you think it is.


A lot of house cats walking around imagining themselves to be lions.


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