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It's not strange at all. We grow what we eat, humans didn't start by eating insects. Plus growing plants specifically to feed livestock is an extremely recent development.

Plus ants can't provide all the nutrients we need.


Humans eat insects, current and past

Much like dogs eat grass.

Argentina is an outlier as their economy is in the dumps, for the rest of SA food is much cheaper than in Europe. But in general you are right that food prices in some countries in SA are artificially high because most of our food is exported, so the domestic market has to pay a premium. We also export the highest quality food. If we fed the domestic market first and exported the surplus food prices would be a fraction of what they are today.

Soybeans have probably a worse impact on the environment than beef. Most of the deforestation in SA in the past couple of decades was for soybean farms.

Well, that's a very misleading statement. Most of those soybeans aren't being produced to be eaten by humans. Most soybeans are used for animal feed.

It's the meat industry that is primarily driving deforestation, both directly for pasture, and indirectly for animal feed.


Not in South America. Cattle here eats grass. Soybean is exported mainly to China which uses it for other reasons, not feeding cattle.


Yes, as you can see, it’s not for cattle.

According to this source, 77% of soy production is used for animal feed. That only a small percentage of it goes to cattle is irrelevant in terms of the damage caused.

Which is my point from the beginning. Soybean production is worse than beef production for the environment when it comes to South America.

It depends on what you are talking about exactly.

Does soybean production as a whole, in SA, is worse than beef production as a whole in SA?

Maybe.

Does soybean production for direct human consumption is worse than beef production for direct human consumption?

Not. Even. Close.

https://www.wri.org/insights/truth-about-low-emissions-beef

Basically you're average meat-eater is indirectly eating more soy than someone having scrambled tofu everyday


From a pragmatic perspective it’s just common sense. Europe cannot produce food at prices its population expects. It has no cattle herd to speak of yet consumes lots of beef. It wants for multiple commodities which don’t grow there. And as time goes on there’ll be less and less food production in Europe.

And the idea that food products from SA are low quality is a very old and uninformed take. For better or worse SA has invested heavily in technology in the agricultural sector. Researches from Europe go to Brazil to learn about cattle genetic improvement and farming, not the other way around.

Most of the EU economy comes from services and manufacturing. They’re ensuring a market for that larger base. Angering the small percentage of farmers to ensure food supply and manufacturing survival is the trade off.


The prices partially were affected by green deal stuff and other home-grown regulations. Maybe regulations should be lowered instead of letting in cheaper produce from locations where such regulations don’t apply?

It's crazy how power hungry UK homes are, or maybe it's UK power consumption habits in general.

I use about ~300 kWh/month. A little bit more with AC some times of the year. What are you even powering with 15000 kWh?


The OP is a significant outlier - the UK average is around 7.4kWh/household/day[0], or 11.2kWh specifically for large households.

[0] https://www.britishgas.co.uk/energy/guides/average-bill.html


Are you commenting on this article? This person is in the UK. You can see it on their domain, their calculations using pounds, and then mention living in the UK multiple times in the "Our setup section".

I did try to make it clear in the article.

We're powering 2 x EVs, have two adults working from home full time, I have a server rack under the stairs, and we have a hot tub outside.


They explain in the article.

Unfortunately the rest of the world has no real example of that. Which is more of an issue with imperialism itself than the people trying to escape it.

Most being the operating word here. Economy class tickets still make a profit if the airline wants it, just see the vast majority of regional flights which have zero business class seats. Southwest for instance has single-class layouts.

Some airlines "take" the marginal economy seat loss on larger planes because those are the ones they can fill with business class seats and make an even larger profit.

Even then it's a complex math on whether economy is hurting those flights' profit margins since those people buy things in-flight such as Wi-Fi and extra bags. Base fare is not the only way airlines make money.


Style matters, maybe unfortunately depending on the point of view. Products like consumer electronics have a large amount of fashion to them. Just like the t-shirt was perfected in the 1950s people still make new ones with little style changes for no functional reason.

Designers at Balenciaga don't have to justify their jobs when they make oversized t-shirts, neither do the ones at Apple.


Fashion is a very appropriate place for style. Tools, less so.


Corollary: the extent of fashion-driven variability those "tools" support over generations tells us just how little utility those tools provide.

In actual tools, the form and function are strongly connected. Tools of competing brands look pretty much the same, except for color accents, because they can't look any different without sacrificing functionality, performance and safety characteristics.

You don't see power tool vendors trying to differentiate their impact drivers by replacing rubber handles with flat glass because it's more "modern", because it would compromise safety and make the tool unsuitable for most jobs its competitors fulfill. This happens in software mostly because the tools aren't doing much of anything substantial - they're not powerful enough for design to actually matter.


I do see tool vendors often adding their own logos to the tools. They choose non-functional colors for styling. They'll make something more rounded or more squared for aesthetic reasons. For consumer-facing tools there are lots of little non-functional changes they'll choose to do for their own stylistic and branding purposes. They do want to ultimately differentiate their products from competitors, not just be the exact same as all the others on the shelf.


The one thing this thread has shown me:

It's very easy to be a parent when you have no children.


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